Mine was 5mm(3/16) x 10mm(3/8) and the pain will take you to the floor. Tried the water hydro thing-- couldn't find it. Finally on the 3rd hospital trip did the laser thing--- only one way in for the laser and that is through a small natural hole in the body.
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would the boy you were be proud of the man you are

Growing old ain't for wimps
Lonnie Gane