I find them an idea that we need to move to. Unfortunately the costs involved to put them up don't pencil out unless there are a load of gevernment subsidies injected into the project.

We took a tour of the wind farm in Vantage, as well as the ones near Grayland. They gave the expected financial return data to us on the tour of the Grayland site. That is when I pointed out to them that in 20 years, based on their projections, they still wouldn't have paid for the cost of the wind turbines, and they would have to replace the turbines at that time.

The tour guide said that they got federal grants that offset the costs, so they will have made the money back in 5 or 6 years. This is when I let him know that every person on the tour had given tax money so the Federal Grant could be paid, so the grant money wasn't really "free" money.

I got the stink eye.