Originally Posted By: Irie
Originally Posted By: FishRanger
By all means, if the wolves are killing YOUR elk, you must have the right to kill em all. . .. . . .that there is a big part of what is wrong with humanity in my opinion. . . .. .. I am all for a balanced ecosystem and am by no means against a hunting season to help keep the balance, I think the justification that there are less elk to hunt is a pretty shiitty one for eradication of the wolves in general .. ... . Yellowstone has no shortage of wolves. . .. .and it also has no shortage of Elk .. . .seems the missing piece of the equation is the human factor to f@ck things up. . ..
OK rant over. . .. time to go take my meds. .. .. foul moose


It's the same dumfuk attitude that self-proclaimed "sportsmen" share for everything else.

Orcas, seals, sealions and eagles are eating "their salmon/steelhead/trout" so let's shoot every last one.

Wolves, cougars & coyotes are eating "their" deer, elk & moose, so it's "fvck 'em. kill 'em all."

Then we get knuckledragging morons that raise the stars & bars and start up with that chest pounding schit about "State's Raights" as soon as they find themselves confronted by legislation they can't wrap their itty-bitty brains around.

It's best to remind yourself that we're dealing with a group of people that don't posses the logic to see past their next mouthful of food. That's why they're dirt poor, living in leaking singlewide trailers in places like Glenoma and have to forage like stray dogs, hand to mouth, on a day-to-day basis.

Usually they post on Gaym-poachin', but sometimes they trickle over and end up here.



What a surprise.

Why in the Hell do you always have to take the extreme?
Whether we're talking gun control or any other topic, there is NEVER EVER moderation in any of your comments.
You are no different than the extreme right that you have such a burning hatred for.

If we as big game hunters or ranchers state that we want to control the population, you immediately twist the argument to ..."Kill all of them" and that is complete horseshitt.


I have always suggested that we manage wolves as a game species like mountain lions, a valuable species with worth to both humans and the ecosystem.
It would be tragic to lose either to extinction.

Factor us human consumers, the natural predators, and ALL wildlife, the generated revenue gained by a controlled hunt and make a livable plan for all.
Unless you remove humans and are happy with population crashes of both predator and prey, you cannot make any one species a holy grail, be it elk or wolves.
Manage the entire ecosystem with a reasonable sustainable program and keep the national parks an untouched ecosystem.
Calculate the reproductive rates of predator and prey and allow a harvestable surplus that doesn't endanger the entire population of either.


Irie, You are a model animal planet wildlife biologist, managing with emotion and not hard facts or science.
Exactly how California manages it's mountain lion population.

beathead


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