Sol Duc, for the money go with Glock. In the same ballpark figures as Kahr. Tried and true. Theres a reason our LE carry them, although I guess Tac PD is going to Kimbers. Go to galleryof guns.com and you can see alot of different models by Kahr, Glock and other manufacturers. Use gun genie and it will help you find reasonable prices within 100 miles of you if you want. Just saying. If you do go on gun genie, look at the differences in price between Outdoor Emp and sportco. They really slap the people in King County. Same company.