Yeah Mike, I know. I checked out the site... after I made the post. You been out lately? I tried Sammamish on Tuesday... no luck. Not sure what I was doing wrong. Could have been speed, distance from diver to lure, or depth. We tried to vary depth. I used several lures, even the one that I caught a cutt on with you and Carl. Only thing I could not really vary was speed and since I do not have a speed sensor on my depth finder I did not know how fast I was going. On the other hand there was a front that had moved in the day before and dumped some rain. Spotted some large echos near the Issaquah creek.