i did read it Chuck, it has nothing to do with that, i just said if you want a pair that will be the last pair you ever buy, look at the Whites... personally, i would get the Danner Powerlines, sell them and buy a pair of Whites...

just an opinion is all, Danner has gone to crap over the last few years, they arent what they used to be, ive owned several pairs, and will not buy another... ive also owned Wesco's, Rockys, and Hathorns (low budget Whites), and nothing compares...

hope you have better expieriences than i have with them Dave...