I've been hunting and fishing the sno tree farm for about the last 15 or 16 years and the deer pop. has gone down in general but there are some nice bucks in there during the late archery season, if you get off the road. The hunting pressure has gone way up for bears in Aug. and Sept. Not many people go in ther for just the fishing anymore but every piece of water has fish in it. The average size has gone down, I think, due to less fishing pressure and more competition for food.