Glowball, They are not talkin because they are waitin for me at the end of oct.I also noticed this the last couple of trips in to the woods.Just a few grunts and alot of cows.I'm sure the weather will turn things around for them the freezing level has dropped quite a bit in the last week and a half they should get out of there summer mode and get down to business.But it sure wouldn't hurt my feelings if there where some big bulls runnin around thinking of breeding and not about hunters come the 20 of october.