thats where im getting confused DD, when it starts drifting, after the intial cast, i cant feel anything at all (litterally) then the line tightens up as much as it can, and i can start feeling it smacking the bottom... when i reel in, and it starts turning in the water, i can really feel the "womp womp womp womp womp, as its spinning in the water... i can see it in the tip... not while drifting tho...i made probably 10 casts today with the shrimp, 5 casts with the Rooster, and the other 100 plus, covering as far as i could with the spoon.. wait, i made 3 casts with a jig after the boat crossed in front of me and they didnt touch anything, and said screw it...

jig fishing is another thing i need to learn to do effectively, but im trying wink