Thanks to you all for replying. FisherDan...My son has a modern rifle tag as I assume you must have. I will try to pm you and stay in touch and no problem not giving your scouting info until you score but I would appreciate the help after.Thanks..... WSU....What were the area's you were hunting the Elk that you saw the Bucks in, If I might ask? I believe each area is designated with a name or number. I am planning on scouting this saturday and I need some grids to begin with. On another note to you WSU....my son just graduated from WSU last semester and he is a "Coug" too so your giving a good man information. Ya gotta Love those "Cougs". Thanks to all......Les