Bob....What about the Skookum. Have you checked that one out. I have been looking at them and it seems that it is better built and has the front platform for standing. I am not sure how stable it is as I have never used either one. Let me know what you think. By the way...I am the guy that was giving my buddy [Bleeeeep!] on the Hoh on Saturday for playing bumper boats when you went bye.