Actually I run the F.O.C. web site and the only info I get is from T.P.U. and The W.D.F.W who Tacoma power pays to run the Hatcherys, generally the fish numbers jive. If there is a discretion between the two I post the lower number. I realise that the flow is 16000 but when I posted it was at 13 still awful high but fishable (If you like to plunk anyway I don,t!)All I wanted was a report from someone who had fished good or bad. to post on the F.O.C. site Thanks for the reply Ramprat