One thing you may not be aware of is that a few years ago Ron Warren got promoted / transferred ? to Olympia & Kirt took over his R6 Fish Program Manager position. (By the way, Ron's wife works for the Personell Board in Olympia). Then when a personell cut was implimented because of funding cuts, Ron stepped back into his old position at R6, so Kirt then was slid back a notch.

Maybe there is some antimosity between the two?
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