Hohwaiian, I agree with you that hatchery fish are part of the problem. But could they also be part of the solution. Instead of pumping the rivers with genetic clones. Use fish traps to trap wild fish use them to generate smolts.Help the wild fish out. Or possibly use a varied stock of genetic traits for the plants, hoping that the similiar genetics are in the batch, to those of wild fish. Phasing out the hatcheries and letting the wild fish fill in the gaps sounds like a good idea, but are there enough wild fish to fill in the gaps on the snake and columbia.(besides the spawners in the hanford reach) Also, I would hang up my rod if I felt that my not fishing would help to bring back certain runs. But so far I don't see that my doing so would matter. mike