Snagly, I'm not responding directly to your thread, but I just wanted you to know that I fished the American yesterday (I know you have.), and I caught one at the "grist mill". I usually fly fish, but I now go back to spinning--sometimes. I think I get more action using a variety of methods. The water is up, but at the grist mill the water has some green. I've heard that's "fishy" water. Although I fell in once, I caught this one fat, round native(?), which I enjoyed catching and releasing. Jim W.