Some of the morons on this site kill me. First of all I fish with HOOKEM (david lee)at least once a week and some times two days a week.I no of 4 separete days in the last two weeks when we hooked 10+ natives on the Snohomish system and we did not see another fish caught.As far as vision is concerned they are not the hook that the gammies are but for the dollar you cant beat them ,I personely went through close to 2500 of them myself.And yes david did use over 5000 of them.I think you people that are questioning superfly and davids integridy are jelous. I know for a fact that superfly caught over 1000 salmon last fall and and more steelhead this winter than the vast majorty of the people on this site.He dosn"t just talk out of his ass he backs it up with knoweldge and ability.SO I hope the next time some of you open your mouth you know who and what your talking about.