JJ -
Thanks for bring your view/thoughts on this issue. I agree that when we have free exchanges of ideas and different view points we all develop a better understanding of some of this complex ideas/concept.

Further I agree whole heartily that what has been tried is not working. On the whole across Puget Sound are steelhead populations have declined to low levels and remain depressed for the last 20 years. This is in spite of hatchery/wild interactions being eliminated or reduced by up to 90% and fishing impacts (including gill nets) reduced by 75% or more (currently at less than 4% in the aggregate across the region). None of these reduction have produce any of the expected benefits. We can continue attempting to squeeze the last blood out of those turnips in spite of little indications of success even with dramatic reduction in impacts from those "Hs."

Maybe it is time to refocus our attention on the "Hs" where improves may bring higher benefits (more fish).

Curt