Doc your a little on the extreme side. I tried one of those days this past season at Astoria. We met up with doc and followed him across, upon arrival we found ourselves in building 4and 5fters, when we had them entering the boat at both ends under trolling speed I had to pull the plug. As we were securing the boat for the return crossing I kept looking over my shoulder thinking dammit doc has got to be thinking the same thing and he should be following. But no he had to rub it in and stick and stay. There were fish around in the three hundred yards we did fish we hooked three. In all doc just has a little bigger set of balls when staying in the slop.