Dan S., I must confess, I too watched this board for several months(just shy I guess)before I ever made my first post. I have over this period of time enjoyed reading this board alot. It has been entertaining and interesting both. But, I must admit there are times when I wonder when someone is screaming about CnR of nates(which I personally practice)are they the same person who is fishing diver and baits in March and April? Because if they are they are hypocrites!!! I fished this technique for many years and have cut off a ton off(O.K.maybe not a ton but quite afew)leaders because they get SUCKED down. I think people who have fished this way have also seen the High percentage of fish that get hooked to deep. My feelings are that if we really care for the resource than we should take it alittle further than just releasing fish. I guess what I am saying is that some people act as if they have never killed a nate but I say if your fishing for them than there is going to be some impact especially with certain methods used.