Fishtick - For the 3 plugs I mentioned it varies. Hot Shot's stock hooks are pretty good now. Most Tadpolys are good stock and some can use one size larger. Wiggle Warts need either one size larger hook, or as I like to do, remove both stock hooks on the standard size and put a 2X treble on a 1 1/4" beadchain and connect that to the belly Wireloop with splitrings (better than the tail wireloop). This has consistently done a better job of solid hookups, particularly on Kings. You can also do it on the Mag Warts with one size larger treble. Another thing to try in the fall is using a 2/0 or 3/0 siwash on the chain in water that has a lot of leaves in it. Or where required by regs. Try metalic red hooks as an alternative to compare effectiveness. Keep re-checking to see that the hooks are kept sticky sharp! - RT