No, I am referring to anyone who ever refers to the Umpqua River, for any reason whatsoever, when comparing Puget Sound streams, or coastal Washington streams...unless the reason they are referring to the Umpqua is to point out that it is stupid to compare it to Puget Sound or Washington coastal streams.

This goes for the WFC crowd who compare it to the Skagit and say the Skagit should have fish just like it, and it goes to the anti-WFC crowd who compare it to any other stream and say that if the hatchery program there doesn't bother the steelhead then neither does any other anywhere else, or that the Queets would be just like the Umpqua if we didn't have gillnetting.

Fish on...

Todd