A far as GH is concerned, try buying them out for the value of their boat and permit. It is a lawful fishery and there isn't a conservation issue is trying to be resolved. It is a reallocation of a resource. They have standing. You think you should be able just wipe that aside. You have legal training. What is the legal precedence for compensating someone to give up a permit? Just because you want to doesn't fly.

Eliminating that fishery through a buyback would reduce the amount spent by Wdfw to manage that fishery over time. I'm assuming that would be the welfare you are referring to.

As to the Puget Sound fishery, I don't fish it much, 6 times in the past 4 years. It would seem that as many rivers and streams that there are that empty into it, we should be fishing a lot more in there, but it tends to get closed down right as it is getting good. Why can't we fish Kings all year if it is a booming success? I think there were a number of times a seine fishery opened up the night before the Edmonds coho derby started. That was a bit of a bummer. I'd like to see seines gone as well. Blake has his opinions on things, so ask him if you really are wanting him to detail that for you. We don't agree on everything. I'm pretty sure he would like to see the non treaty gill netters in GH and WB as long as there are fish. I don't. I would love to see the fishery eliminated, gill nets. But any elimination needs to be reasonable.

In the example solution I gave the GH fishery would be eliminated in 5 years. An incremtal process. Management costs would/should decrease over time. Shouldn't they? Get the nets out, please.

Stomping your feet and demanding it didn't work well this year. Do you think it will work next year? Do you think threatening to drag a senator and the actions of his son, because of an event that is already public knowledge, through the mud once again will buy any sympathy towards the plight of the GH and WB sportsfishermen? That was a an absolute low by Luckie Louie. No class whatsoever.

All I am trying to do is have people look at it in a different way Todd. I told you this bill would fail as presented and it did. How do you change the presentation and the result? You are a wicked smart guy. Think. Leave the emotion aside. Let's get rid of the nets.