I use the pink folbe cutter on the chinook side and solid tie double hook set up.Hollow out gut's put the top hook which is a 5/0 through the toppart of the cut plug,and let the 4/0 trailer dangle 1 to 1.5 inches behind tail this is my trolling way of hooking up herring.I use rock salt brine on fresh herring and brine and bite on frozen. STRIKE ZONE