Flygirl, on the contrary, thanks for all the info on the Olive Willy, with your info, I can picture just what it looks like. I still think you should add a woolly bugger to your list. Maybe size 10-14, a gold beadhead,peacock chennile, and furnace or black hackle. This classic fly would be good in lakes/streams, and is an easy tie,in case any of your "newbies" would care to try.
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DanO