Mike Sexton of Mike's guide service swears by the vision hook's,We used last Saturday on the cow.On that trip I saw two bent hook's and one broken one,He said they had come a long way but I'll stick with the best gammi!!!!!!I've only broken two or three gammi's,did that in one trip with vision.It makes it hard to stray.More then anything I think all hook company's produce a bad batch here and there even gammi,I won't use there nickle hook's again due to there points breaking off.I switched to the black for mooching rigs and haven't had any problems. Just my .02. STRIKE ZONE