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#1007717 - 04/20/19 11:55 PM Re: Gillnets in Grays Harbor? [Re: milkBottleMikey]
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I go to all the meetings, to me it is MORE IMPORTANT to have time to fish.

If sports were allowed to keep hatchery Chinook on the Chehalis side, the total amount of people fishing from Johns River to Fuller Bridge would blow though the impacts allowed in short order and the river would be shut down/closed, that could be just a day or two after opening on September 16.


I'll take a Coho fishery that goes until December 31, than to worry about a few Chinook in the NT gill net fishery.


If a person wants to fish and kill a hatchery Chinook......When head to Willapa or do the Humptulips fishery.
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#1007725 - 04/21/19 09:25 AM Re: Gillnets in Grays Harbor? [Re: DrifterWA]
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Totally agree with you Drifter WA, but if sports aren't going to keep them, the commercials shouldn't either. No king retention should mean no king retention for the state side of the user groups, and if WDFW was cognizant of and working towards "everybody getting along" they would have the commercial fleet releasing all kings if nothing else to remain consistent and not create ill will between the user groups they manage.
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#1007726 - 04/21/19 10:19 AM Re: Gillnets in Grays Harbor? [Re: milkBottleMikey]
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NO RETENTION SHOULD MEAN NO RETENTION FOR ANYONE...no matter what nation you belong to.
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#1007727 - 04/21/19 10:47 AM Re: Gillnets in Grays Harbor? [Re: milkBottleMikey]
Happy Birthday Carcassman Offline
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And that would depend on what the non-retention rule was for. If pure conservation, then there should ne no retention. If for allocation, just because you chose to kill your there and I choose here doesn't give you free reign to kill here too.

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#1007731 - 04/21/19 11:22 AM Re: Gillnets in Grays Harbor? [Re: Carcassman]
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The no retention in a targeted fishery is driven by the 3/5 provision of the GH policy and has nothing to do with the QIN fisheries. Rec impacts would blow apart the Satsop and our numbers in a minute. If the hang up is we can't so they can't is a valid thought I guess but frankly that is a little short sighted. Staff followed the GHMP to the letter and the NT Commercial used what small share they were allowed in that manner. It is about the GHMP and numbers not if you feel is fair or not.
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#1007733 - 04/21/19 11:38 AM Re: Gillnets in Grays Harbor? [Re: milkBottleMikey]
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I'd druther the NI commercial weren't killing wild Chinook, but I'm OK with things as described by Rivrguy for now. The long game needs to be the end of the NI gillnet fleet, which is an anachronism by any standard. It has simply outlived its utility, the management costs exceed the exvessel value, and the treaty fleet will be around for a long time to fulfill whatever commercial fishing need exists. Meanwhile, a productive coho fishery in the harbor is something I've been missing lately.

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#1007738 - 04/21/19 02:11 PM Re: Gillnets in Grays Harbor? [Re: Rivrguy]
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Originally Posted By: Rivrguy

The no retention in a targeted fishery is driven by the 3/5 provision of the GH policy and has nothing to do with the QIN fisheries. Rec impacts would blow apart the Satsop and our numbers in a minute. If the hang up is we can't so they can't is a valid thought I guess but frankly that is a little short sighted. Staff followed the GHMP to the letter and the NT Commercial used what small share they were allowed in that manner. It is about the GHMP and numbers not if you feel is fair or not.


Totally correct! Bob R

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