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#1012006 - 07/21/19 11:12 AM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
Evo Offline
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Registered: 03/29/14
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the government was throwing antibiotic filled salmon out of a boat to feed the Orcas not that long ago...

are they going to get in trouble?

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#1012011 - 07/21/19 08:58 PM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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So trivial... people need to get over themselves. This is overwhelmingly ridiculous...
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#1012013 - 07/21/19 09:41 PM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: cobble cruiser]
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Registered: 09/05/14
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Loc: Stanwood WA
Originally Posted By: cobble cruiser
So trivial... people need to get over themselves. This is overwhelmingly ridiculous...


+100 and Thank You!

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#1012021 - 07/22/19 10:46 AM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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Baywolf, smalma and salmo I think are spot on, I agree with you tug on the surface.
But the devil lies in the details.
Feeding ANY animal in the state could get you a fine, from feeding ducks in some local lakes, to feeding by hand or close proximity another wild animal like a red fox..I figured this out after a FB posted video wink
I don't think he was malicious in the act BUUUT he was also on a tv show while he did it!! He made himself be made an example of, plain and simple.
We have had issues with seals and sea lions being too comfortable around people for quite some time now and it is a series of small actions like this that breed that kind of behavior IMO.
I think Tom should pay the damn fine, but I ALSO think the government has a responsibility to educate as well (which will be an interesting feat with his slander campaign).
Cut the fine a bit, educate on both sides and from both parties...pay the goddamn reduced fine and take some f@cking accountability, be an adult!

And his [Bleeeeep!] rant about how NOAA should be dissolved just because of this, a war drum he still continues to beat...as if this is the ONLY thing that dept does...is COMPLETELY f@cking childish and now pretty much the only reason I want to see him pay the whole fine or go to jail...Idgaf which. His childish nonsense is a mockery to the sport and the caring participants therein.
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#1012035 - 07/22/19 04:57 PM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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While that dipshit was wasting time writing a ticket and making a federal case out of something as ridiculous and trivial as this the “state” has another sewage spill. 3 MILLION gallons of Seattle’s Best special blend Raw Sewage is dumped in the bay.....AGAIN! hello People wonder why respect for law enforcement is reaching all time lows? This clown is a prime example.

WTF happened to this place? It was a great place to grow up in. Back in the 70’s and 80’s it wasn’t the moronic, tax happy, police state that it is today.

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#1012036 - 07/22/19 05:15 PM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: RowVsWade]
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The fundamental difference between the past and now is a whole sh-- pot of folks moved here to get away from the very same thing that they vote for now. Strange how that works but get out of PS and the place is still the WA ST it was.
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#1012037 - 07/22/19 05:20 PM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Rivrguy]
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Originally Posted By: Rivrguy

The fundamental difference between the past and now is a whole sh-- pot of folks moved here to get away from the very same thing that they vote for now. Strange how that works but get out of PS and the place is still the WA ST it was.


That is happening everywhere as the population increases. But people keep having babies.
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#1012039 - 07/22/19 06:36 PM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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Case in point why we don't want pinnipeds to comfortable with people. These fellas get fed all the time at steveston. Man up, pay the damn fine, and don't record yourself doing something illegal next time.

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#1012052 - 07/23/19 07:54 AM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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the_chemist

Tom's action and the video you posted are like, not the same problem.
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#1012055 - 07/23/19 08:17 AM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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Having been at that cleaning station several times there is always one or more seals hanging around waiting for an easy meal of scraps. For practical purposes there is no difference between dropping a carcass in front of a waiting seal and what Nelson did in terms of habituating them to people as a food source.

What was different was that he, Nelson, was making a point about the proliferation of pinnipeds and their documented predatory impact on salmonids. In my opinion NOAA's actions are more about the public criticism than the deed of leading a seal astray.

NOAA's actions are actually counter-productive in that they have resulted in a continuation of the story with more publicity and negative feelings about NOAA and the heavy hand of the Government. Furthermore, it perpetuates the reality that NOAA/NMFS is (still) doing nothing to reduce pinniped predation in Puget Sound despite growing scientific evidence of its magnitude of that predation on ESA listed Chinook and ESA listed SRKW which feed on the Chinook.
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#1012308 - 07/28/19 03:02 AM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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I doubt he's going to jail for not paying a fine, but I am guessing he'll be served and forced to pay the fine plus fees via federal court order if he still refuses. The feds will win or find a way to win

Still refuse? That fine will show up on his credit report as a debt to the federal government after judgement. Try cleaning/clearing that on your credit report or try to get a loan - in a timely manner! I've seen 800-plus credit scores not get a loan for much less due to a tax/ lien or debt to the government. Not to mention how many eyes will be on him...

Take the lump(s), pay the fine and move on...

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#1012309 - 07/28/19 06:06 AM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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Isn't it weird that feeding all wild life is illegal except when hunting for deer or elk? I guess bears, coyotes, squirrels, crows and other forest critters would never consider eating some chow from a bait pile. So is every dock-side cleaning station in the state now going to be listed as 'illegal' to use?

Arbitrary rules seems rather arbitrary. I'd want to fight paying that fine as well, but knowing how the government works, it's usually best just to pay it and move on.

What a bunch of bullchit.
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#1012314 - 07/28/19 07:20 AM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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Interesting cleaning station down in the southern end of the Everglades NP, I think the name of the village is Flamingo. Anyway, best place to easily see American Crocodiles, who gather there for some eats. Saw a couple nice sized ones, over 10'.

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#1012319 - 07/28/19 08:11 AM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: NickD90]
Larry B Offline
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Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2744
Loc: University Place and Whidbey I...
Originally Posted By: NickD90
Isn't it weird that feeding all wild life is illegal except when hunting for deer or elk? I guess bears, coyotes, squirrels, crows and other forest critters would never consider eating some chow from a bait pile. So is every dock-side cleaning station in the state now going to be listed as 'illegal' to use?

Arbitrary rules seems rather arbitrary. I'd want to fight paying that fine as well, but knowing how the government works, it's usually best just to pay it and move on.

What a bunch of bullchit.


Huh? I believe hunting over bait is illegal in WA. That said, anyone dropping a salmon carcass in front of a seal at that cleaning station could be cited.
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#1012322 - 07/28/19 11:54 AM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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Nope-Only baiting waterfowl and bear is illegal in Wa.
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#1012325 - 07/28/19 01:18 PM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: BroodBuster]
Larry B Offline
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Registered: 10/22/09
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Loc: University Place and Whidbey I...
Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
Nope-Only baiting waterfowl and bear is illegal in Wa.


Been awhile since I hunted in WA so I checked the regs and at least for elk and deer you are absolutely correct - see page 92 of the current regs. I stand corrected; thanks.
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#1012330 - 07/28/19 07:48 PM Re: Looks like Tommy's in trouble with the feds. [Re: Chinook 1]
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Registered: 12/26/05
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Pay it in pennies. Gotta have fun with it.

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