https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv...ligious-belief/

Not surprised that right wing kooks want to raise stupid kids...they will eventually be stupid adults and vote for Republicans.

Fish on...

Todd

Interesting, 65 republicans and 30 democrats for, 3 democrats against. Looks like it is completely the republicans passing it. Maybe your opinion is based off where you get your news... The banner reads....the Progressive Secular Humanist. Perhaps instead of asking how old the earth is, a test should as " according to the current prevailing scientific theory, how old is the Earth?"

Calling settle science "theory" and giving any time at all to whacked out religious mythology as an alternative reality is why we can't have nice things.

Fish on...

Todd

Ohio. A friend of mine was from Ohio and called it the land of the stupid people. Sounds like he was right.

Stupid would be waiting for the Ice age that was predicted in when I was a kid. I would call that a Theory....

No, stupid is using your Sky Fairy Storybook to make scientific and policy decisions, while fighting anyone else who says their Sky Fairy is the real Sky Fairy.

Think telling your kid that it's ok to be stupid is good for their careers? I guess they can always get into Liberty or the next Trump University, or pump gas for $8 an hour while blaming brown people for their lot in life...becoming the stupid cogs in the wheels of the ultra-rich is a great way to be happy.

Don't worry, just keep your head down and suck it up, Sky Fairy says you'll get yours in the next life, whether it be fairy wings, 60 virgins, or a front row seat on an intergalactic Sky Fairy spacemobile.

Fish on...

Todd

Stupid is pretending it was a widely-held scientific belief.

It wasn't.

But you already knew that.

Stupidity often is revealed through anger, when faced with a belief that contradictory to ones own. True intelligence finds beauty in the awesome understanding that we do not know everything.

Many years ago a man went on a journey. Coming home his best friend came and told him that his wife had been unfaithful. The man called him a liar and sent him away. The friend returned with another friend and tried to persuade the man to listen. You were gone, they said. You did not see what we saw. In anger the man rose up and killed his two friends. He then went out and slew the man they accused of sleeping with his wife. For good measure, he then locked his wife up in the basement. From that day forth, he lived happily proclaiming the beauty and purity of his wife, and rested in fact that no man raised a doubt about it.

You do understand most "Brown people" are very religious and believe in Jesus and God correct?

So you try to offend people by claiming that none of it exists, then try to defend "Brown people"...




Prove none of it exists....

Atheists are some of the most fvcked up individuals on this planet...

I have yet to meet a true atheist. Most are agnostic and call themselves atheists. None of us really know what happens when we die.

<<<<<<<<<<<------------ Infidel, and proud of it.

Wtf does that even mean?

Evo actually gets something right every so often. Atheism is the epitome of close mindedness, particularly because it insinuates the nonexistence higher deity which cannot be proven. It can be questioned for its existence or lack of and we have no way to prove it either way (agnosticism) which would be the more open minded viewpoint.



Streamer

Agnostics are Atheists, Atheists are Agnostics...

and if you want to get technical, they are both religions...

Huh?

they both say the same sh!t...

and religion is a belief, which forms a "group"...

And just when Evo sees to have an understanding of something, he keeps talking and it shows that he doesn’t.

They aren’t the same thing and don’t say the same thing. Atheism denies the existence of a higher deity while agnosticism holds the belief a higher deity may or may not be possible and that we have no way of proving it.


Streamer

I'm all for people believing, or not believing whatever they want about religion...it literally is what's guaranteed by our Constitution.

That being said...you can believe that Moses parted the Red Sea if you want to, but if you are in a science class and they ask "What's the best way to survey for geoduck in the south end of Puget Sound?" and you reply back "Jesus can walk out there on the water and have his Chosen People part the sea for you and you can count them", then you are going to get an F and fail the class...you don't get to say stuff like that and get a passing grade.

That's what this topic is about...letting Sky Fairy beliefs allow you to get school credit for intentionally being ignorant of easily verifiable facts...there's a reason why Trump "loves the poorly educated", and it's not a reason that's good for the US, or mankind.

Believe what you want, worship no gods, one god, or a dozen gods...but don't let that belief system tell you that 2+2=3, unless you are good with getting an F in math, or that thunder and lightning is caused by Thor fighting ice giants and expect to pass a basic climatology class in college.

This shitt is why we have "abstinence only" education being pushed for by the right wing whackos when it is scientifically proven to result in more teenage pregnancies, more STIs, and consequently higher abortion rates...logic plays no part in it, and that is not how this should work.

Fish on...

Todd

If stupid should hurt, Evo would be on a morphine drip.

Atheists and agnostics say / believe the same thing?

Wha???

Robert Flint..................................................

lol

Athiests sure are crazy, what with all their demands for evidence and such.

Complete lunatics.

Exactly
Agnosticism states the possibility whilst atheism professes the proof of a nonexistent god. I personally, am neither. I would suppose to some extent every person is agnostic as we really dont know what lies in the great beyond or who the great what is, is. I have found that if we get really honest about it , the belligerent ones have skeletinsnin their closet they haven't dealt with.

See what other esoteric shi.t some of these cats will throw out there.there

ive posted this sh!t before, years ago...

ive also shown my interest in religions, and arguing with people about it....

so here, since no one wants to actually do the work....

One of the earliest definitions of agnostic atheism is that of theologian and philosopher Robert Flint, in his Croall Lecture of 1887–1888 (published in 1903 under the title Agnosticism).

The atheist may however be, and not unfrequently is, an agnostic. There is an agnostic atheism or atheistic agnosticism, and the combination of atheism with agnosticism which may be so named is not an uncommon one.[4]

If a man has failed to find any good reason for believing that there is a God, it is perfectly natural and rational that he should not believe that there is a God; and if so, he is an atheist... if he goes farther, and, after an investigation into the nature and reach of human knowledge, ending in the conclusion that the existence of God is incapable of proof, cease to believe in it on the ground that he cannot know it to be true, he is an agnostic and also an atheist – an agnostic-atheist – an atheist because an agnostic... while, then, it is erroneous to identify agnosticism and atheism, it is equally erroneous so to separate them as if the one were exclusive of the other...[4]

In 1885 Robert G. Ingersoll, popularly known as "The Great Agnostic", explained his comparative view of agnosticism and atheism as follows:[5]

The Agnostic is an Atheist. The Atheist is an Agnostic. The Agnostic says, ‘I do not know, but I do not believe there is any God.’ The Atheist says the same.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

"Do the work"? lol. Says the unemployed bum.



Self awareness ever?

should have known that stupid would be arriving in a post about being stupid....

Not true.

That all depended on who was teaching the fish class.



Run this by the powers that be in our state natural resources management agency, and you'd probably be in line for a promotion! That's some forward thinking right there! Heck, get the same guy to turn the water in to wine and now you've got the wineries knocking on your door to get in on that action! Promoted *AND* rich!

Oh, and let's not lump the "Chosen People" in with the "Chosen One", please.

Yes you did at 11/16/19 05:53 PM.


Anyway is this evo feller the most stupid idiot on this here board? in my short time here I have noticed that to be the case. he also seems to like doubling down on stupid......probably a trump fan too cuz he always doubles down on stupid, too.

Ironic

He is dumb as fuk.

The ironic thing is he sees the rest of us as the know-it-all full-of-$hit types when he is the very definition of it. Ive never seen a more sensitive little $hit in my life who still wants to be a know-it-all. Evo is that nerdy little annoying kid that gets beat up at recess and the recess lady doesn’t care anymore because it happens every single day.

see there you go saying "us" again...

you do realize the people i know from this site laugh about people like YOU...



fvckin retard....

then, instead of trying or attempting to have a logical conversation about something, you just call me stupid and other dumb names because why? because you fvcking lost and have nothing, thats why you imbecilic no pussy getting wader pissing mother fvcker....

Like i said, religion interests me, maybe i get that from my dad and my grandfather, whom was a professor of theology at Harvard...

What's this Gayson? Since you know so much more than me since I'm just a dumb fvck...

Here's a hint muttface....

Evo seems upset.

And also seems to be ignoring the entire premise of the original post.

You can't see it, but I am wearing my shocked face over here.

Fish on...

Todd

"That's why I am a hillside apple farming, imbecilic, no pussy getting, wader pissing, mother fvcker"....

Sig material.

It was Moses and the red sea,btw. GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT!

I don’t know if I know more than you. Nor have I ever made that claim. That may be why you are a retard?

Evotard, there may be a clue for you here. If you find it, you get a juice box and cookie from mommie.

That would be "who," not "whom" Mr. Harvard. BTW, I'd believe your claim if you provide documentation. Even university professors sometimes have dumb relatives.

Todd,
Imagine having a teacher tell a kid exactly what you said..."Calling settle science "theory" and giving any time at all to whacked out religious mythology as an alternative reality is why we can't have nice things"

I would guess that the main push behind the legislation has more to do with the belief that some teachers are intolerant than a push against scientific theory. Regardless of what you believe in, intolerance is the key mark sign of stupidity.

It is becoming more and more clear where you fall into the equation.

lol

Evo loves to pretend that knowing people who know things means you also know things.

It doesn't.

You have to do your own work.

Nate, who is the wader pisser ?

He died in 1984 when i was 5... I hardly knew him...

I do my own work, which is what makes this all that much more fun....

Its exercise...

And reading is learning, learning is work, if not, then the professors that make such statements, couldn't be professors because they read a bunch of stuff someone else wrote to get the degree to put them into a position to write something they didn't work to know...

SSDD...

Now I know why you are so sensitive to being called a retard, you fancy yourself a trailer park professor.

I'm not sensitive to sh!t bitch boy....

And i profess nothing...

Learn faggot

Now now...

Slow dunce is actually also worth a correct comment or two from time to time as well it seems.

But watch he opens his mouth next and says something just as fawking stupid as Evo.

This reply says otherwise.

Well said Professor Evotard.

Good job removing any lingering doubt that you truly are the Evotard. Do you even have the slightest idea how dumb that sentence is?

I had to do more than read to get a degree. Reading was part of it, but they wanted me to do more than that. There were exams, quizzes, papers and stuff.

It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble.

It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. - Mark Twain

Reading? I wish it was just reading.

Some arseshole neglected to tell that a degree in Fisheries involved science...and a *lot* of it.

Science? Math? Differential Equations? Chemistry? O-Chemistry? Physics? Statistics? Ecology? Biology?

Screw that! That crap was like hard and stuff.

I got a degree in fisheries to learn about fish, goddammit!!!!!

Go Dawgs!

Hey Evo - What's with the photo of the Iraqi Dinar note and the chicken scratches on the paper? Did you go there when Saddam was in power (Gulf War 1) and bring back some of their currency? I guess I'm stoopid and not scholarly as I'm not catching the hint/reference. Unlike you, I'm not smartz enough to use the googles and look it up. My copy and paste skillz are weak.

I do have a quran and some Uzbekistan soms at home. If I post photos of those, does that mean I be smartz and edumacated too? Oh, I've been to Uzbekistan and brought the the currency home with me. Didn't get it from a relative or the internet. I was in Kyrgyzstan too but I don't recall what their currency was, nor did I bring any home with me. I do recall the god damn rug-rat kids kept trying to steal the watch off of my wrist. I caught some kid trying to slip my watch off at the local bizarre, so I grabbed his wrist (hard), looked him in his terrified eyes, and in my best and loud "Merican Voice" told him to "Knock it the fvck off." Kid started screaming like a stuck pig which drew the attention of the adults. When the adults showed up and they found out this kid was trying to steal off of the Americans, the adults took him away, and started beating the wholly Allah out of him. Oddly enough, I was left alone by the local kids for the rest of the day. Fun times!

You guys only need a degree in 401K.

Stay focused.

no, i didnt go, i blew my knee up when i was about 20 and any hopes of joining the military were thrown out the window...

the Dinar note, clue, was to possibly throw the hint that the page is a Koran page...

the page from the Koran or Quran, however you would like to type it, is from the 1300's, and i purchased it years ago from a friend... ive always found it interesting, and in any case, if i run out of paper, i still have something to light the BBQ with....

the Dinar note was given to us by a very very good family friend, and guy that did a ton of work for my dad... one of the most genuine, and genuinely dangerous dudes you will ever meet....

the "scenario" was, he was a Force Recon Sniper in Kosovo, Bosnia, Jordan (i think) and Iraq in Desert Storm (first war as you noted), he was doing recon and had Saddam in his scope for over 6 hours, during which time Schwarzkopf never gave the go ahead to terminate the target...

Saddam left, and they entered the palace, gaining more intel and whatnot... apparently he grabbed a couple stacks of cash that were there and brought it home... he also has pictures inside the palace of him with some of the weapons that were in there, one of which was a golden AK...

he is the definition of black ops... and as i said, is a seriously genuine, and genuinely dangerous individual...

my dads other good friend and family friend growing up, Butch, was another guy like that... it was fun growing up around him, the stories he had were insane hearing as a kid... he was special ops Ranger, in Vietnam, told stories about jumping out of choppers in the pitch black in the jungle, going in on the target, slitting their throats, and getting out before anyone even knew anything happen...


you know what, that just made me realize something... i sure do miss my dad...

Started that degree when I was 21 or so. Been contributing the max to that degree every day since. Contributing more so, now that I turned fiddy.

I'm on track and focused, my friend.

Another reason why one should have and get a job with good benefits.

I wouldn't know about a gov't job. I don't work for the gov't.

You vote? Damn, Stam!

Rambo sucks...

They were calling me to enlist when I was 15.

Do you ever post anything that isn’t a thinly veiled lie to build yourself up?

no they werent, stop lying...

back then they never took faggots willingly in the military...

that evo feller thinks he is awesome simply by being in proximity of other people who actually accomplished things in their lives. more like he knew someone who knew someone who blew someone who once saw a tv show about iraq, thus evo is an army vet and navy seal all in one.

you can tell by what a badass he is to other walmart shoppers. waving guns at innocent people in the parking lot etc.

you retarded fvck i was asked a question and answered it... wtf is your deal? why dont you talk sh!t to him, im sure it can be arranged...

i see you still are with the gay sh!t as well, not that im surprised...

fvck Rocky too...

Dude...why the Stallone hate? I have the deluxe Rambo collection on DVD . Love that sh!t call me silly. I have almost all the Arnold flicks too,Commando and Predator are this shniznick!

If you guys want a knowledge war, Evo will give you a knowledge war you wouldn't believe.

LMAO.

This chit just keeps getting better and better.

I don't even need to make jokes here.

Chit just writes itself.

BTW - Happy Bday Beez. Hopefully this thread has been a good gift to you.

Alright you listen here, NO ONE is kicken Josie Wales ass. Not ever!!! Dyin ain't much of a livin. Barbarosa would agree.

First Blood was badass. When I was in high school, one of my buddies put a big gash in his arm, and sewed it up with some 2 lb test fishing line and a needle because he didn't have any insurance or scratch. We called him "Rambo" for the rest of our HS years.

My dad was a doctor, so if any of you guys need a pacemaker or some other similar device, PM me. My brother built lasers for a team of physicists at UW so they could trap a barium ion to make an atomic clock - the team's leader, Hans Dehmelt won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1989. So if you need solutions to any math equations or a laser weapon, again, send me a PM. Also, my mom was a research chemist specializing in pulp and paper, so if you need a digester built or some chemical sh!t formulated to break down your wood fibers..........well, you know.

I also met Krist Novoselic the other day, so I'm available if your band needs a bass player.



Is this Beezy's birthday? Right on! Happy birthday! Mass birthdays in November in my family - everyone was getting a little on Valentine's Day! lol

All those people were just pencil neck book readers fed a mountain of lies by liberal socialist professors. They don’t actually know anything according to Professor Evotard. Their ingenuity can actually be traced back to a trailer park full of people collecting disability, definitely not institutions of higher brain washing! KAG!!!

FACT: All of our innovation has come from trailer parks and dudes who wear camo everything. Beware snowflakes.

Prove me wrong! KAG!!

Me too.

He's a fun guy to fish with. Good things happen on my line when he's near me.

I should go fishing with him in January. On his BDay.

Rock on Dan.

Can we get back to the topic at hand, which is why it would be better that being stupid caused actual physical pain, instead of giving out participation awards to religious fruit loops who get moved along in school for being intentionally incorrect, but blame it on Jesus, Mohammed, the Buddha, God, or Chuck Norris?

Fish on...

Todd

Gawd, I've known a few trained killers in my day, but it never occurred to me that they might be both genuine and genuinely dangerous as well. That Evo fella has a talent, a genuinely dangerous talent for penning hogwash entertainment, sure 'nuff.

I hear ya' Paker. I thought college was gonna' jus be like high school, only with ashtrays, and more beer drinkin', and more partying. Not all that hard stuff. And studying? Man, that was the sh!ts, not the shizzle. All those physics, statistics, and science just to learn to tie a proper improved clinch knot . . .

It's really too bad you guys aren't in school in Ohio right now...you could have just written "The Flying Spaghetti Monster says fisheries is like a box of chocolates!" and taken your passing grades and gone fishing.

Fish on...

Todd

You're right Todd. That and grade inflation is making education so much easier. Fvk, back in my day we had to prove we fvkin' knew what we were talking about. So unfair!

Facts are for libruhls and pacifists, anyway. Fukk those guys.

Fish on...

Todd

So Dan, do you go to family reunions, or do you just sit in the corner and keep your mouth shut. Must suck to get the short end of the stick......

I see you've read my thesis.....

Why would I do that?

I'm the smartest one in the family.

I hope that the Ohio legislature that allows ignorant students to pass all their classes requires Ohio companies to hire those ignorant job applicants, even if they are unqualified to do more than flip burgers.

Fish on...

Todd

Well, yeah...but that kinda happens everywhere. "Conservatives" are the worst fuckin Socialists in the country.

Plus they whine about it all day, while being Socialists.

This thread is a perfect example.

The topic is about having to carry fuckin idiots who are encouraged to be fuckin iditos by a bunch of other fuckin idiots...all the while bitching about "religous freedom" as the reason why they need to be fuckin carried idiots.

Then the thread gets completely hijacked by a Trailer Park Professor/Assassin/Religious Expert...who is the most Socialist freeloading zero on this entire site...all the while bitching about that very thing.

We live in strange times.

Fish on...

Todd

I just got a new shelf to house all my cds ,making more room for me to buy more albums and cds.

I just bought a few DK autographs... And a couple 1909 T206...

I just bought a 6-pack of Busch tall boys and a jug of Clamato juice.

Gross...

It's not a drink for the ladies. Have a White Claw.

Busch is the equivalent of hotdog water....

Clamato is period juice...

Clamato? Bush Beer? White Claw? 22's of MALT LIQUOR?

WTF?????

All I gotta say is that gin makes a man mean.

It's time to booze up and RIOT!

used to drink alot of Bombay when i was younger... not so much anymore...

generally just a Cuervo bloody mary now adays....

All the proof one needs to conclude that poor taste reigns on the Dark Side.

poor taste?

oh trust me, i like the XO Hennesey and Remmy, even bought a 200 dollar bottle of Prince Napoleon for the Millennium, still have the box somewhere, bottle had a clock on it with an astrological map...

also have a bottle of Ghost Owl whiskey here, not much into whiskey anymore tho...

Patron is good, dont care to pay for it tho...

i like 1800...

But what's your everyday drink Evo?

just said, 1800 bloody mary...

some super high end Boodwietzer as well...

last time i cracked a Busch, the fvcker was flat, like ZERO carbonation... made me puke, and it was the last time i ever drank that sh!t...

Corona can be OK once and a while, St Pauli is alright, Heinekin is alright, not into that faggy ass craft beer sh!t like Moose Drool and Space Dust, Guiness is like drinking coffee grounds....

Modelo is good sometimes, Rolling Rock, yeah drank too much of that sh!t so no go there... same with Red Dog and Icehouse, kinda gag just thinking about it...

had a Coors Light at my brothers last weekend, yeah fvck light beer...

Bunch of drunk, dope smoking liberal state employees around here.

Super high end "Boodwietzer" is an oxymoron. Rolling Rock is Pennsylvania equivalent to Seattle's Rainier.

Geez, your taste in beer, while not terribly sophisticated is about high enough to disqualify you for the Dark Side.

Seems to me that the majority of the conversation is being carried by one guy who is not an employee anywhere, and a retired dude.

Fish on...

Todd

You trying to make a point there somewhere?

I get the feeling that no one trusts you here. Braggarts are usually full of shiit.

If you don't chew big red then, Fvck you.....lol

Yes.

Response to this:



Drunk, maybe, and dopey, maybe...but employees? Nah.



Fish on...

Todd

Fine. Don't have one then. Both brands will probably survive without being in your shopping list.

So you say you're a hotdog water and period juice drinker, huh?

Interesting.

Professor Evotard is a little boy so he enjoys milk, especially sausage milk.

sausage milk.

Dance of the lactating sausage.

+1



"Only a thirsty man complains about another person's choice of beers. Hold my beer and watch this! " -A. Hitler

Angry Darkside............ Best Darkside

You damned PNW heathens.

They're called Bloody Bulls (Texas) or Red Beers (Colorado). They're ubiquitous where I'm from. Went from ma's boob to red beers.

(1) 12 oz. Coors Banquet LN or in a pinch, a Budwesier LN
(1) 6 - 8 oz. spicy V8
(1) pinch garlic salt
(1) pinch pepper
A dash or two of Tabasco
A dash of two of Worcestershire (THE key ingredient)
Add a twist of lime if you want it

Stir.

Eat burritos & green chili.

Repeat.

*Note 1: Sorry Dan, Clamato is for dead ass bitches. Ain't no clam juice in a red beer. PERIOD. Ain't any real clams in Texas, Colorado, New Mexico & Arizona. It's either Mexican food or BBQ beer. Chit from the salt water has no bearing in this discussion.

**Note 2: If'n you pour anything other than a Coors Banquet LN, you are doing it wrong and I will heckle & smite you.

Alcoholism is no joke

No it's not.

Woohoo shout out New Mexico the 505 that’s my homeland &#127474;&#127485;

He he, Nick mentioned Coors, like Coors is actually beer . . .

High noon under the ol' Oak tree on the outskirts of town. Pack a lunch old man.

I'm sorry - you must have mistaken me for someone who gives a fvck what they do in the retarded parts of the country. States without clams can go fvck off - all of 'em. Who cares what those clowns drink - they chose to live in Texas, so how smart could they be?

I said I was drinking Busch beer and Clamato. Didn't say red beer, didn't say Busch was great, didn't say any fuckin thing like that. I'll have one down and another mixed before you gather up all your ingredients for what should be a simple drink, though.

Oh, and making it sound like Coors is better than Busch is equally as stupid as saying Busch is hotdog water but you drink Corona. Your piss beer isn't better than my piss beer.

Sounded almost like a Michelada, which you all should try. Just get one from a really good Mexican restaurant that does them right.

So triggered! Perfect. My job here is done.

Coors? That come with a fuckin umbrella in it?

One day I'll post my family's recipe for Green Chili and it will change lives.

Like...it's so good that I've seriously contemplated making a business out of it and providing it commercially. There is literally nothing on the consumer market like it.

Damn - now I want a plate of real Mexican food. My only complaint about PNW cuisine is the lack of really good Mexican and BBQ. To their credit, the places up here try, but it's just not the same.

You were the guy triggered by Busch and Clamato. Pot-kettle-black, glass houses and all that.

Beer.

Whiskey.

Don't make it so complicated.

Fish on...

Todd

If you drink for the taste then get a good fawkin beer.

If you drink for the effect who gives a [Bleeeeep!] what you drink as long as it gets the job done.

Pretty simple to me.

Yeah, but I'm right so that's different.

lol

"It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck."

I see we think alike.

Here's a PSA for foodies that want that stuff too, but you gotta drive to Marysville.

La Terraza - an authentic taqueria with tons of house specialties too. The best carnitas. It's a total hole in the wall next to 31 flavors on State but it's the real deal...killer Micheladas there too. Don't confuse it with the shiitty other mexican joint across the parking lot.

Jeff's Texas Style BBQ - If you like Austin, TX style BBQ, this is the place. Just ask the Seahawks. The brisket is just like you can get in Austin.

I can't believe you clowns don't just use Snap-E-Toms.

This rainbow state is outta hand.

Per Hank.............Queers Suck.

"One day I'll post my family's recipe for Green Chili and it will change lives."

Nick, I'd like some good green chili, no more than 2 stars hot. I'm a pepper wimp. Please do post it.


"If you drink for the taste then get a good fawkin beer.

If you drink for the effect who gives a [Bleeeeep!] what you drink as long as it gets the job done.

Pretty simple to me."

That actually makes sense. Not sure if you should be saying stuff like that on the Dark Side.