I'm feeling awfully surly and obstinate today. Pick a topic, any topic and bring it. Playing Devils advocate, I will beat your ass so badly it'll literally change your DNA. Your father will no longer be your father, he'll be me. As your new dad, I'll bend you over my knee and then send you to bed without dinner. Then I'll fvck your mother and slap her for having such a stupid child.

Step bitches.

Wouldn't know. Ask your mom. Is that what you are going into battle with? If so, I've already won. Congrats! You've been eliminated in the first round. WTG!!!

Next.

I'm sorry - I thought I had excused you? Why are you still talking when you should be listening and learning.

Today's first lesson: Name Calling - Simple minds 101. When you got nuthin' else, tap your inner toddler.

Next.

Whoa! Actual active mod'ing? Like in real time...on the DS? WTF?

Apparently, the mods topic of choice is freedom of speech.

I'm your Huckleberry,

Hanker - u fvcker!

Ooof.

Maaaaaaan!!!

Why you gotta do me like that?

Touche.

Just know that I know you would've been too old to go after that bull. So, no, you wouldn't have shot him because you would have never have seen him because your ass would have been back that the truck 6 miles and 2K vertical feet away.

Draw?

Jeezusss... Nick musta pulled a slow dunce and hit the bottle hard before jumping onto PP for the night.

Nah - just trying to spice things up around here on this stale, dead ass board.

6 miles and 2k feet actually IS nothing....and that's why it's funny.

Hey Nick. Wanna argue about music? Bet i win...

He's scared folks.

That's more like it! I ain't skeeered, so sure. Bring it on.

You start with a musical position and I'll be the contrarian.

I'm just warning you that if you start with Abba, I'm just going to shoot you in the face.

Yup, weird thread. Is this what happens when Nick over indulges?

No I'm not going to start with fkn Abba. Who was the first Heavy Metal Band?

That's a quiz question, not a defensible position for a spirited debate.

It would be a debate once you got the answer wrong,Nick.

Sabbath?

I don't know. It's gotta be a late 60's band though. Deep Purple or Iron Butterfly? I know Steppenwolf mentioned "heavy metal thunder" and that could possibly be the first mention of the words 'heavy metal' in music?

I'm sure I'm wrong, so let the debate begin!

Sabbath was the wellspring from which Heavy Metal sprung,but they themselves will tell you they were a rock and roll band. Heavy metal wasn't a genre. But they were the founding fathers.

Nick would have probably said Iron Butterfly or some sh!t lol

I just did! lol....

I posted Iron Butterfly before I even read that haha. Ok Nick. The first REAL Heavy Metal band was Priest. Judas Priest stylistically came up with leather and spikes,and they thematically started writing heavy metal songs. Black Sabbath owns all that came after make no mistake,but it's Judas Priest. Debate over you lose.

yawn...

You listen to any behemoth or gojira.

I think Gojira is one of the better "newer" metal bands. I like their themes of enviromental issues and spirituality. Behemoth is a wicked band but thematically I get bored quickly with the satanic themes.

Mario Duplantier is the real deal. He can play double bass for an hour without ever stopping,it's his "warm up". Saw those guys live in SC and they were off the hook. Never seen Behemoth,but if you are into that sort of sh!t check out Watain. They are swedish and light upside down crosses on fire on stage and throw blood on the crowd. I was back a few rows so it missed me

Not so fast. The guitar chords in In-Agadda-Da-Vida were laid down before Priest was even a band. If you are talking theatrics & looks, then it probably was Priest. Iron Butterfly probably considered themselves just Rock. This brings me to a point of clarification needed. Is heavy metal considered the structural arrangement of a song or it is an all up music, attitude and look combined?

I would say it would be the later. Case in point, The Kinks were the first to cut their speakers to produce fuzz. Is fuzz considered HM or are just power cords considered HM? The Kinks are not HM.

I'm talking Heavy Metal as a subgenre of music. You know what Heavy Metal is. Iron Maiden. Slayer. Many people say Sabbath was the first,and that's not up for debate. But the first band to put it all together was Judas Priest.

Same as the proto punk rock of the Stooges. But they weren't punk rock. Ya dig?

Your definition of 'all up' fair enough and the correct one. With that I would agree that it's Priest. However, Priest did not originally create the sound themselves - they borrowed the structural power cord basis and built it into a subgenre which directly maps to your point.

Music is a tough one considering very few have actually created a new sound. Most pick, choose and borrow from those that have come before.

Great debate!

Gojira and behemoth opened for knot this year at KISWs pain in the grass. Got to see disturbed, rob zombie and Marilyn Manson.
Rob puts on a hell of a show.
It was my first time hearing Gojira and I was very impressed.

Correction. This is a hijack. Nobody was remotely entertained at what you had going until I stepped in. You're welcome.

Eh. Rob Zombie makes better movies than music and that isn't saying much. That sounds like an Ozzfest lineup if ever there was one lol.

Bands like High on Fire,early Mastodon,and the Sword re-piqued my interest in heavy music for a while. Lately I have been on a different metal kick,old Accept,Raven,Krokus and Michael Schenker,and morose 80s bands like the Cure and Killing Joke,Bauhaus,and I've really been digging NEU! which was an early 70s band from Germany. Europe seems to grab my attention more than America when it comes to hard rock and other types of things but the US has it's fair share.

I mean look at the creative boom in the 90's. Panfuckingtera lol

Whoosh! That's the point Avid. To step in with a position and defend it. I just laid down the challenge. It's up to you and / or others to accept said challenge or not. Hanker did last night and got owned. Too bad the mods saw fit to scramble the thread and stack the deck.

Any other music items you want to toss into the mix? Past music - what else ya got?

Little Nicky,
Just remember while you fa king my momma I'm in the closet watching.

Ewww. Well - enjoy the show. It'll only last 23 seconds anyway.

I love talking about music,fishing. But there isn't much to debate. Other than the crap like Jonas Brothers,your favorite band.

That's the deal, zombies music is meh but the performance and theatrics were like watching one of his movies.

I'm a huge MSG and UFO fan.

UFO Phenomenon and Lights out should be in ever person's music collection. On vinyl! Montrose. Same thing. Ozzy with Randy,same thing. Scorpions Lovedrive and In Trance. Everything with Bon Scott. I have about 1500 records and Cds. I am really getting into Fela Kuti's music. Look him up,african jazz,or whatever it's hard to classify him. The REAL deal. I also love Dr John the Night Tripper.

I always go with Deep Purple in answer to that question...but I'm not going to fight over it.

Fish on...

Todd

Is that what Google told ya....lol

Nah, but I think it's kinda generally accepted....though I love Avid's answer of Judas Priest, they have been a giant influence on every heavy metal band since they arrived.

Fish on...

Todd

That's the spirit! Let me count the ways and demonstrate exactly why the Jonas Brothers are the best band of all time!

Here's my list:
#1. They aren't

The end.

206ers probably got Culture Club framed over their mattress on the floor.

Sounds like the 206.

I like Culture Club. AT least they had some talent. And as for Purple,what Blackmore did was play neoclassical electric guitar,and Jon Lord was a fkn legend. Give Born Again a listen,it was what Ian Gillan described as the longest blackout of his life lol. Under looked Sabbath album. Also I've been cranking some Perfect Strangers lately. Word around the water cooler is they all took Peyote when they cut the video.

See I knew this would be misconstrued as who invented metal. That's not it,it's who put all the elements together to make it a complete Genre,hence the first heavy metal band,Priest.

Todd and I cranked some Goldy Lookin Chain once in his van when I went up to visit some of these crazy fookers. Take that and do what you will with it

Buncha Limey Rappers

Deep Purple is the first metal band, then Sabbath, then Priest....

thats just my opinion...


anyways, always have loved this song...

oh yeah, and this crazy motherfvcker....

Danzig. I have a friend who thinks the sun sets on Misfits and Danzig. To each his own I guess.

I am trying to see how it is yo all are coming up with Deep Purple being the first heavy metal band .

Sounds pretty psychedelic blues to me. Rather influenced by Cream if you ask me.

1970.

this is the first "real" black metal band from Norway.

one of my good friends introduced me to a few bands in middle school, he actually plays in a band out of Cali but i forget what the name of it is...

hes always been into punk, and i had alot of punk CD's before everything was stolen after my dad died...

ive always liked rap, but he got me really into punk in the early 90s...












the Ramones are probably the first true punk band, but i guess that can be debated possibly...

oh and these dudes....

oh, and have always loved this dude, hes probably the most under appreciated, over looked artist in the game....

a least i think....





these guys were decent too....




and yes, i was and am a huge NIrvana fan... i literally had almost every single disk ever created, bootlegs, ect....

then they were all stolen 2 weeks after my dad died....

Music is like food.

I only know if I like it, and I don't give a fvck if you like what I like and I don't need a reason for liking it. I just do.

avid - tell me what you think of Opeth. My kid just flew to Dublin and saw them in concert there. He said it kicked ass. I stayed closer to home and saw Maiden in Tacoma. They definitely kicked ass.

Night shift checking in. Who wants to catch a beatin'?

WTF??? Deep Purple a metal band????. lmao. Priest Rules.

First rapper.....Blondie.

Nate. Love Beck, Sea Change is in my top 5 all time,no joke, Maybe top 10 lol. Also I love that COC sh!t. I got to say whats up to Pepper Keenan when I saw him in Down.


Yes I think it's universal,Ramones were the first punk band bonafide.

Dan. My friend Sarah is super into Opeth. Musically Michael Akerfelt is innovative. I had a hard time getting into them. I have been revisiting the older stuff and I really like it. They are European which for some reason makes it better lol.

Sugarhill Gang with Rapper's delight. 1979. Rapture was 80-81? Either way you're misguided as usual.

Oh and Nick,you may want to fight via debate but you damn sure lost this thread

Ford vs. Chevy

A crack head calling someone misguided is quite ironic. :>)

Blondie wasnt rap... at all...

Sol Duc is off his meds and his rocker. He keeps using the same insults . He likely sees himself as clever,while the people around him see the ugly truth...

Correct!

Incorrect!

Hijack complete

Ford.

#1. Ford GT40

#2. Henry Ford was one of the first titans of industry to fight for and provide his workers with a "living" wage

#3. I worked at GM in Detroit. Fiancé worked at Ford. She was happy - I was not. It sucked balls.

Chevy. I have a friend who bought an F350. Front chrome grill made of plastic and was peeling off,cheap as chit. He said it was 500 for a replacement that would fail again lol.

also...

They all have cheap plastic grills nowadays and have for sometime. Around the mid to late 80's - Stamly could probably confirm when they started to go with plastic.

Your friend should look into an all metal aftermarket grill. T-Rex makes a nice one for Chevy's and they are based out of Cali too...

Or just buy a Chevy? I drive a Colorado. Love it.

AC/DC

Yup they started Porno rock.

It was heavy.

I listened to it when I was a punk.

Wanna rap about it?

You Fuucking Homos.

Happy birthday fluffer boi.

I hate to burst your bubble but your Colorado has a plastic grill. Good trucks though.

And yes....HBD to WDFW. 2Many candles is fire hazard, so don't burn yer' house down with all of those candles old man.

mine has a 260 MPH speedometer...

A plastic grill that doesn't peel after 5 years,what a joke Ford is. But at least they made the Pinto. Then again the Chevette is in the top worst cars isn't it? **** it buy japanese or european!

European.. Lol
Or you could just buy a Toyota and say fvck the rest.

Prove that.

Besides it'll never hit 260 sitting on cinder blocks in the front yard. Just thought you should know.

I love Toyotas - pretty much bomb proof for 300K or more.

I've been looking into used Tacoma's and holy chit, the resale value is insane. There's almost no advantage between new and used and letting the original owner take the hit.

I've since resigned myself to a low miles F250 for half the price. I just hope the front grill doesn't peel.

You own a Bugatti Chiron? Sweet!

Oh wait, Evo never said his (or her) car could go to 260MPH. Matter of fact, he really didn't say it runs or starts, either........

Remind me again what car this is?



What if the vehicle was suspended off of the cinder blocks allowing all 4 times to spin? I could be wrong on this ASSumption that the "speed" of a vehicle is just a calculation of simple axel/wheel rotation, and if that were the case, it seems to me all Evo would have to do is:

a) Climb in the suspended vehicle.
b) Get the engine started.
c) Stomp on the gas and let the wheels spin!
d) Achieve 260MPH
e) Take photo of speedometer, post it to the board, and tell Nick to SUCK IT HARD!!!!!"

PS. I strongly recommend that:

1) Evo takes and posts a video of this "Hold my beer and watch this" moment.
2) Has the vehicle strapped down, or at least partially strapped down. I'm guessing nothing good can happen from a blocked up vehicle with wheels spinning at 260MPH and falling off of the blocks.

That would be a great test Parker, but it has to start first and we all know that ain't happening.

But once it gets running (snicker), I could totally see Evo trying to pull a Ferris Bueller Ferrari trick to roll back the odometer. Possum riding shotgun of course.

If it does peel you loose HP.....lol

pretty good looking cinder blocks if you ask me....







and here is the video ive posted before, since i am stupid and cant read, whats the speedometer say?

https://www.facebook.com/nate.bradeen/videos/10217634139107220/

What would evo do with his life if he weren't bragging all the time? Maybe he'd have enough time to finally get a job and stop freeloading.

EVO delivers for once! WOW...color me impressed!

[ REDACTED due to butt hurt ]

I alread said japanese dum dum, and I wasn't referring to Nissan. My next truck will be a Tundra,I'm happy with what I have right now,it gets great mileage and is comfy. I drive around a lot with my work so it suits my needs.

Nick, you don't need to be implying $hit like that here.
C'mon bud, you're better than that. Especially if you don't know the dude.

I have to agree with you here. A bit over the line IMO.

Fine - maybe I did go too far, so it's been redacted. I wouldn't want to chit all over anyone's delicate sensibilities here.

The good news is that, outside of Hank, we've finally found a line not to cross on the DS. You're welcome my dudes.

Oh i have a line....

Don't cross it and there won't be an issue...

That's also not a playground...

Yeah well, I never heard that.
Child abduction/abuse ain't Something to joke about.
If you got a problem hanker we can get em up.

I understand this is the DS but, where in your fuckin brain do some people think they can just imply [Bleeeeep!] like that?

Nick, it ain't bout being delicate.
How would you feel in the opposite shoes.
Tell me I'm wrong.

[Redacted] cuz I'm embarrassed is more like it.

dude .

This thread went from benign to ball to the fkn wall in about 10 minutes!!!

Evo - I know you do. I know it's not. I sincerely apologize for making the remark that I did. I know you ain't like that. Just funin' around with ya', but it was unacceptable to not only you - but for me to say.

I like to think of myself as a lame Chuck Yeager (of sorts) for pushing the boundaries of comedy on the internet. I just strap in and let that chit fly. Sometimes I land it successfully and sometimes I crash and burn. Obviously, this was a crash and burn.

Sorry Evo.

(And Hanker don't give me chit for apologizing here - its the right thing to do. Thanks.)

Christ. OK!

Nick, you're the man.
Respect.

You are all sensitive caring assholes

Lol yer good... It literally didn't bother me at all...

It's not like you Photoshoped my dads face into gay porn and sent it to me which my mom ended up seeing not too long after he died causing her to cry....

Or sent a link to a "picture" of my dad which was actually a picture of some black guy getting fvcked in the ass by a horse and a virus that destroyed my dads laptop losing all pictures of him and my grandfather that were on it....

It's not like you spread rumors about me, which have made me not talk to my uncle or aunt in 5 years because of lies...

You're good Nick, i knew it was a joke...

He isn't wrong. The van was LEGENDARY lol

Hey NickD90 still feel like you're winning? lol

If that is the thread that this is made of, I want no part.

Hanker, you watch the news lately about Walt Harris's step-daughter being abducted and found dead recently. Sad, sad fvckin story.

Uh huh. Sure. Seems legit.....

Well I wouldn't exactly go that far seeing how I'm in the middle of transitioning.

(See that's funny. I think. I don't know anymore. Umbrella drink Paker will have to weigh in on his level of offense here for me to know).

Dude that's [Bleeeeep!] up man

You got any kids of your own?

Cool thread

As usual Briznitty doesn't pay attention...

But I have to ask,if all that TRULY happened the way you said,Nate,why then would you continue to interact on this board? Unless said party(s)have since left or been banned? Lots more to this story. We need the detective to get in there and work it out .

If you are insinuating my being on board with child sexual abuse you can kiss my fvcking ass dude.

You're good dude.
I got thick fvckin skin but when people talk like that about children, that's where I draw the line.
Real people can apologize when they Fvck up.
Fake people like hanker are pussies.

Yeah yeah ok he recanted let it go. You don't draw any lines here Spoony you're just another anonymous poster on an internet board. You with all your threats of physical violence on people here has worn thin with me ,stick to trying to be clever.

-Robert Ford

Careful. Some internet tough guy may threaten you with physical violence.

the photos were posted on Fishchan by members of this site... i dont know, nor do i care if they are still here... one of the fvckin retards that was involved was ODH...

the virus/link was sent to me on this site, about 1 minute after i clicked it, they HDD in the computer and motherboard (according to Creative Computers in Puyallup) fried and they couldnt do anything but replace it, which i did myself, and used it for a little bit (was a 2004 model Toshiba Sattelite Pro, happened in 2009ish)

KK is the one that spread all the bullsh!t lies that my uncle tried spreading to him, he fvcked up when he said "im not whistling Dixie here Guy".... well my Uncles name is Guy, and his wifes name is Dixie, and just to top it off, i told my aunt Nancy to fvck off as well.. they will not make up sh!t about me because i wont cower to their demands... fvck that noise...

why am i still here? because im not a bitch, and if i left, they/these people, win... and as i told you before, i never lose... well unless i go to the casino, or maybe a couple times on XBOX...

plus i find it absolutely hilarious, after all the sh!t talking that has gone on, not one person knows what i look like... and ill come up to you on the river, at the sports shows, whatever, have a nice conversation, part ways, then tell them it was good meeting them in a post on here, and sitting back and laughing....

because i am what i am in life and on the internet, but i also am not always what i seem....

Why does a Cadillac need a speedo that goes to 260? To mock the owner?

Did not mean it like that avid. You just jumped into something you shouldn't have.
Sorry, bud.

This is a weird thread, NickD90 has some weird debates

Oh how I long for the good old days of debating music and plastic truck grills. Seems like it was just yesterday. Time flies when you've accidentally started an absolute chitstorm of debauchery.

[dusts off hands] My work here is done! [double finger guns]

Whatever. I stand by anything I post on here and say in real life. I didn't do anything I shouldn't have.

You can show me where I threatened somebody?
If somebody's calls me a pussy like hanker did, they have an invite from me to find out how much of a pussy I am.

some Caddys do need it... mine is governed to 156 MPH, but i can have the PCM flashed by Jake at Northstar Performance, to remove it... dont need to... but the car can easily go past 156 MPH with it removed...

the CTS-V is a 200 plus MPH car, so you can see why they would need one....

Never mind avid, you're just a POS like Hank is.

We used to get the older CTS's as pool cars when I worked at GM. They are no joke and since we didn't own them, we'd often test some boundaries. Fun cars and they drive like a dream, because hey...it's a Caddy.

STFU you have no idea who I am or what I'm about and I don't give a fvck what you think of me or my internet persona . I don't even like most of your drivel on here,and we aren't friends. And you have made claims of whoopin asses on here multiple times. To people no less who probably would surprise you,we're fkn grown men here. You have thick skin? GTFOH

Oh and Evo for what it's worth good on you for not letting others dictate what you do in life ,[Bleeeeep!] them

ive actually been thinking about buying a 2009 STS-V... the CTS-V is 640 HP and i think i may get myself in trouble with it....

the STS-V is 479 HP, so a little tamer....

then again, ill probably end up with something like a 79 Malibu with a big block in it or some sh!t....

Well except for his PO; the food stamp office; ankle monitor; his Mom and GF. Other than those fine folks - spot on!

A golfing buddy has a STS - really nice rides. Get the STS.

mine is a 99 STS, ive always liked the Seville platforms...

the problem with buying cars like that tho, you dont know what the previous owner did with it... if it was some 80 year old lady, cool, but if it was some mid 30-40s male, yeah theres probably an issue with how it was treated....

same thing with Chargers, Challengers, Mustangs, SS's, SS Impalas, STI's, Camaro's, etc...

in all actuality, ill probably end up getting a truck and a boat, dont really want to tow anything with the Grand Cherokee, its more of a go anywhere vehicle, and honestly dont want to be driving like an idiot with Katie in the car...

Point of clarity: He's a teaching pro and needs that style of ride for work. I don't golf. I tell bad jokes and miss Elk. Occasionally, I'll reel in a passed off fish. Oh and masturbation. Lots and lots of masturbation.

eww..

Hey Nate, isn't it more likely you'll end up with some 80s Taurus, or something of that ilk? I mean buying groceries with food stamps and then loading the bags into a Caddie is in poor taste. Or is that an accepted "thing" with internet tough guys?

i dont get fewd staymps...


also, i never said i was a tough guy, you did...

all i said was try me....

Yeah. that is fukked up. why did someone do that?

how the fvck would i know?

the internet is funny, people think they can get away with anything they want and nothing will happen...

ok...

there was one guy on the page i admin on, talked ALL this sh!t, seen him one day on the river, said a few things to him about fishing, then left... watched him cross the river and head down to a spot ive been fishing with relative solitude for the last 14 years...

posted on the page for him to stay the fvck out of my spot, he was like wtf, who are you, and i said the guy that talked to you and watched you cross the river...

he unjoined the page and deleted his FB account...

thats the type of sh!t that makes me happy....

Well that was a fun day guys thanks. I don't get that whole running your mouth(keyboard) on the internet thing and then backing down . People take this [Bleeeeep!] too serious imo. I'm down to fish with ,well maybe a few of you lol

That's the perfect crack/grocery getter...….LOL

Slo ,this thread has been really entertaining today. I bet it has a lot to do with you not being in it. I would bet further these fine folks would all agree. I bet you a 50 dollar rock of crack that you can shove up your fvckin ass. I also think you don't know how to fish,in fact I bet I would outfish you. Unfortunately that would require us to meet,and that sounds just eckhhhh .

You sound upset...

9.4 for the win. lol

I was wondering the same.

So upset.

Any of you bitches in here collect sports cards?

I don't back down avid.
You just can't seem to mind your own business.
Stay upset..

Evo, I don't collect anymore but, have a hell of a collection somewhere at my folks house. I got some neat stuff.

Used to. I think I have around 5k worth.

5k of cards or of value?


I started again... Sure isn't as cheap as it used to be, but I've been getting some slick sh!t lately for cheap....

Value. Maybe more maybe less.

Griffey upper deck rookie card is my white whale.

Most proud of the mantle and mays cards passed down to me.

I used to collect comics. I gave a bunch of baseball cards to my sisters oldest. He has some good ones. That Griffey card is sweet man !

The Griffey card isn't worth what it once was... You can get them for about 40 bucks in good condition.. A PSA 10 can pull money but good luck getting one graded that high...

Mantle and Mays cards always sell good depending on the year...


Jake, i used to play magic heavily, had a bunch of cards from beta, legends, unlimited, revised, ice age, etc...

Had a bunch stolen too....

sorry to butt into your "private conversation" spoonbred.

Each of the mays and mantle cards are worth hundreds each. Some aren’t cause my dad’s friend put his initials on them . About the Griffey card, not everything is about money, I think it’s just cool as sh1t.

Check the price on a black lotus or other rare cards from those sets and laugh....

That Griffey card is an icon... Had many of them.. Still have a couple of the 89 fleer... Also have the Billy Ripken [Bleeeeep!] Face card, uncensored...

Got a 200-250 dollar Brandon Lowe 3/5 autograph a couple weeks ago from a 5 dollar pack....

Oh and i don't even know the fvck Brandon Lowe is...

He's a bum on the Rays lol why is that worth 250?? I don't know anything about the value of collectibles I just think it's funny you played Magic. I had friends that played dungeons and dragons. I chose to actually get pu$$y lol

Error cards are the best.

Billy Ripken has talked about that card, he used to write vulgar stuff on his bats Incase some other fool used it. He doesn’t remember fuk face to be so big but he acknowledges that he wrote that.

I was looking at my Dad's baseball mitt when he was a kid. It's made by Hutch and has "Warren Spahn signature embossed on it. Not that I would sell it, but does it have any value? It's in nice shape.