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#102469 - 01/20/03 01:08 AM Tiger Muskies
Chuckn'Duck Offline
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Registered: 03/10/00
Posts: 356
Loc: West of Eden
Well, since I'm stuck in Utah and don't see getting back home until mid-may I've decided to adapt and stop fretting about no steelhead/springer fishing in the coming months. However, I'm looking forward to "ice-off" on the reservoir above Ogden, where I'm living. It has among other critters, tiger muskies that range above 50'' in length. Knowing that Mayfield has these (I never thought seriously of fishing them when anadromous fish were available) I thought possibly some of you had targeted them on the bug rod. Besides my 9-10 wt and steel leaders, is there any suggestions on patterns and/or techniques you've used for these toothy buggers before? I'm assuming a good old articulated bunny about 7-10 inches might be a good bet...
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#102470 - 01/21/03 12:34 PM Re: Tiger Muskies
kjackson Offline
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Registered: 06/12/01
Posts: 558
Loc: Port Townend, WA
Hmmm... can't say I've ever fished for tiger muskies before, but I've been around enough pike to make a few suggestions. First-- the fish are pretty aggressive. Second, their teeth are unbelievably sharp. Third, they're brutes in sizes over six pounds or so.

Pike seem to prefer yellow and red color combos or chartreuse and red or white and red. I don't think you have to go too fancy in pattern.

I would avoid articulated bunny flies because the rabbit strip will last about one fish. The dacron or mono link between the shank in the front and the hook in the back won't last that long. Larry Dahlberg had some patterns that were grown-up versions of his Dahlberg Diver that he liked for pike as well as some other variations using the long version of FishHair.

As far as leaders go, there are several brands of stranded wire that you can use to tie shock leaders. Tyger is one that comes to mind. Some folks just tie the fly on a heavy mono shock tippet and trust that they'll hook the fish on the outside of the mouth. That might be OK with a tarpon-style tie on a long shank hook.

That will work-- I once caught an 18-pound pike on 6-lb. test line and a 1/8-ounce crappie jig.

Now you've got me thinking Mayfield...

Good luck--

Keith

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#102471 - 01/21/03 03:54 PM Re: Tiger Muskies
Steelieblue Offline
Parr

Registered: 01/12/01
Posts: 53
Loc: Seattle
Hey-

This topic came up on another board I use. I spent many hours fishing muskie in the midwest I would second a lot of what kjackson had to say. I disagree on one tiny point. Since these fish are extremely hard to raise and hook I would not worry about my flies only lasting one fish. I would gladly let them rip it up if I think it is going to work well. Other than that see below for my post on the other board I use. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

"Finally a topic I know something about! I used to fish extensively for muskie while I grew up in Wisconsin and Minnesota and have caught about 100 of them. I have used both conventional gear and a fly rod. While I cannot say I have landed one on a fly rod I have had several hard takes and I can tell you it feels like a hand grenade going off on the end of your line when it happens. Quite exhilirating to say the least. In the midwest muskie like the gawdiest things. Chartreuse green, red, red and yellow, red and brown all catch fish. Crippled looking fish are really an obvious choice. Retrieve accordingly (ie. eratic and jerky). Also, I have been able to see almost every bite I have had from muskie so don't worry about getting too deep, they like noise and flash and will come up a ways to hit it. They like to lay in weeds and ambush from there. I don't know if air craft cable is necessary for tippet. Notice I haven't landed one but I can all but gurantee lighter will mean more hookups and they are extremely resilient fish, if they end up with your fly in their mouth they will shake it or live through it. If you are fortunate enough to hook one in the corner of the mouth you can get by with quite light line but if you get in to their teeth they will be waving good bye in a hurry. I don't know how active they will be in the winter, check your water temps and then check them against the more productive months in WI and MN lakes. Good luck. Email me if you want to know anything. I may or may not be able to help."

Later

Josh
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#102472 - 01/24/03 03:22 PM Re: Tiger Muskies
Sparkey Offline
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Registered: 03/06/99
Posts: 1273
Loc: Western Washington
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When they planted Green Lake with tigers this past spring, I know some guys did well with Double Bunnys and Wolly Buggers...the key to catching the fish at Green Lake, was that the guys were finding where the planted trout were hanging out...and that is where the tigers were.
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