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#1023816 - 03/06/20 09:37 AM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for S tangle nets [Re: Larry B]
Terry Roth Offline
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#1023824 - 03/06/20 11:37 AM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for S tangle nets [Re: slabhunter]
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Loc: Tumwater
Can anyone tell me what the tangle net mesh size restrictions are for the spring fishery? Are revival boxes required? Is there a maximum soak time? I also wonder, as a suspicious old fishcop, if there will be separate days for Young's Bay and the big river. Without good enforcement, it would be easy for a Young's Bay gillnet to be dropped into the Columbia late at night on a night that the tangle net fishery was open. The size of the mesh in the tangle net is critical. Years back the WDFW idiot Bill Tweit allowed a five plus inch net (basically a Coho net to save the gillnetters money) and more than 20,000 wild steelhead were taken as by catch. And Mr. Tweit ,inspite of the fact that he apparently knows almost nothing about the real effects of gillnets is still in charge of much of the salmon management in the Columbia. Also, are there any observers slated for this season. WDFW goes out of their way to make sure "there aren't enough funds". for observers. I'll shut up. (For a while)

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#1023825 - 03/06/20 11:41 AM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for S tangle nets [Re: Terry Roth]
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Originally Posted By: Terry Roth
"My hands are clean!" said Lady Macbeth...


Well played.

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#1023934 - 03/06/20 08:49 PM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for S tangle nets [Re: Tug 3]
eyeFISH Offline
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Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12766
Originally Posted By: Tug 3
Can anyone tell me what the tangle net mesh size restrictions are for the spring fishery? Are revival boxes required? Is there a maximum soak time? I also wonder, as a suspicious old fishcop, if there will be separate days for Young's Bay and the big river. Without good enforcement, it would be easy for a Young's Bay gillnet to be dropped into the Columbia late at night on a night that the tangle net fishery was open. The size of the mesh in the tangle net is critical. Years back the WDFW idiot Bill Tweit allowed a five plus inch net (basically a Coho net to save the gillnetters money) and more than 20,000 wild steelhead were taken as by catch. And Mr. Tweit ,inspite of the fact that he apparently knows almost nothing about the real effects of gillnets is still in charge of much of the salmon management in the Columbia. Also, are there any observers slated for this season. WDFW goes out of their way to make sure "there aren't enough funds". for observers. I'll shut up. (For a while)


The last time a mainstem gillnet fishery on CR springs occurred was April 2016.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/...2016_action.pdf

4.25" mesh... 45 minute soak... boat limit of FOUR springers.

What a JOKE!
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#1030429 - 05/19/20 07:31 PM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for cr tangle nets [Re: slabhunter]
slabhunter Offline
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Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3742
Loc: Sheltona Beach
Looks like there will be a run update? Since the nets are included in this meeting.

Quote:
A Compact/Joint State hearing is scheduled for 10:00 AM Wednesday
May 20, 2020 via teleconference to consider mainstem Columbia River
recreational and commercial spring Chinook fisheries.

https://www.dfw.state.or.us/fish/OSCRP/CRM/CAN/20/200519_hearing_announcement.pdf

I sent this in an email to the Governor's office.

[quote][/quote]
Honorable Governor,

I strongly oppose the proposal to authorize a gillnet fishery for spring Chinook in the mainstem Columbia River, for the first time since 2016. This proposal comes as populations of upriver spring Chinook have plummeted to levels not seen since the 1990's. Also, our state's steelhead are impacted by the method of commercial harvest.

I volunteered for over twenty years at my local schools teaching Aquatic Education. Part of the program was teaching ethics.

I urge you to stop this fishery from taking place.

Warmest regards,
Hans Mak
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#1030444 - 05/20/20 07:25 AM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for cr tangle nets [Re: slabhunter]
Rivrguy Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4393
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
Quote:
But they delegated their authority on this matter to the director.


Got that one Doc, in fact in all matters harvest related the Commission has delegated its authority to the Director. Even the many policies are guidance as they only become binding if put into a WAC.
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#1030525 - 05/20/20 02:17 PM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for cr tangle nets [Re: slabhunter]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Looks like they are not going to have a below-Bonneville mainstem gillnet fishery, nor are they going to extend the sportfishery down there.

This make sense to me since they closed the Clearwater due to concerns that there were not going to be sufficient fish for broodstock needs at their hatcheries.

Fish on...

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#1030582 - 05/21/20 05:39 PM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for cr tangle nets [Re: slabhunter]
Chinook 1 Offline
Fry

Registered: 03/14/18
Posts: 37
What mistakenly is called a gill net fishery. Is in reality a 11 hour tangle tooth net fishery. And because of the presence of to many Shad. It would have been hard to release marked Chinook. And impact on summer Steelhead would be minimal in zone 4 and 5. Let not forget that NOAA fisheries issues the permits for a Columbia river spring Chinook fisheries to WDFW and ODFW. And how the two departments kill those fish is up to them. So hook and line pitchfork,dynamite or tangle tooth nets it all the same. Your still killing fish. Both sports and commercials were against the fishery.


Edited by Chinook 1 (05/22/20 12:15 PM)

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#1030584 - 05/21/20 07:15 PM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for cr tangle nets [Re: Chinook 1]
darth baiter Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 04/04/10
Posts: 199
Loc: United States
Originally Posted By: Chinook 1
What mistakenly is called a gill net fishery. Is in reality a 11 hour tangle tooth net fishery. And because of the presence of to many Shad. It would have been hard to release marked Chinook. And impact on summer Steelhead would be minimal in zone 6. Let not forget that NOAA fisheries issues the permits for a Columbia river spring Chinook fisheries to WDFW and ODFW. And how the two departments kill those fish is up to them. So hook and line pitchfork,dynamite or tangle tooth nets it all the same. Your still killing fish. Both sports and commercials were against the fishery.


I think you meant Zone 4,5. Zone 6 is the tribal fishery above Bonneville.

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#1030616 - 05/22/20 12:16 PM Re: WA and OR agree 5% more impact for cr tangle nets [Re: slabhunter]
Chinook 1 Offline
Fry

Registered: 03/14/18
Posts: 37
Sorry about the type O


Edited by Chinook 1 (05/22/20 12:17 PM)

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