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#1036986 - 08/23/20 09:06 AM Satsop River, mouth to bridges
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The lower Satsop, if you haven't been to the area, will have major changes from last year.

1. Change was necessary to protect pump station for water to the Nuke plant AND to Keys Road itself.

2. There has been many piling being driven, and logs used in, around, thru the piling to slow the river.

3. There is also piling being driven to the West of Keys Road. If you have bank fished the areas or boat run the lower part, from mouth up toward the bridges....I'm thinking major changes in river bed. Really hard to tell, right now, because of low water flow.

All this change will definitely cause "mud, sticks, etc." to be pushed in to the Chehalis and my fishing areas......grrrrrrr, might have to join the above Fuller Bridge horde of fisher people.

I know its early because Chehalis doesn't open for adult until 10/01/20 but now you'll know....

The following is information on this phase of the plan: There is a map, showing where the work is being done.....


https://www.ezview.wa.gov/site/alias__1492/37644/default.aspx

Big file......





Edited by DrifterWA (08/23/20 09:10 AM)
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#1036988 - 08/23/20 09:56 AM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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It's nice to have a local keep us in the know.

Thanks drifter and good luck out there. thumbs

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#1036989 - 08/23/20 10:07 AM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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Thanks. I've never fished that part of the river. A fisherman was telling me about Keys road yesterday. Doesn't open until 1 October.
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#1037004 - 08/24/20 09:12 AM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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I suspect the claim this is to protect the nuke plant's pump house may be misleading, because a mothballed plant that never got up and running has little use for a pump house, and none of the businesses operating at the site need one either. Pretty sure these changes are about protecting Keys Road and the properties on the west side of the lower Satsop. To think the lower river was such great fly water just 10 years ago... Every run had bitey coho in it. The run by the aforementioned pump house was my favorite spot. Now they all seem to beeline all the way to the Riviera before they start staging where you can catch them. Timing the tides has become more and more important as the lower river becomes less and less hospitable.

Thanks for the heads up, DW!

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#1037006 - 08/24/20 09:26 AM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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I think the pumps are for potable water to the site that operates now not the former nuke generators. The Satsop is always changing in fact in the early 80's the mouth was at Fuller Hill bridge then went west which at that time was called the old mouth. It will move again just as it has many times. Just look at the changes at the old highway bridge and above the cemetery hole in recent years.
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#1037032 - 08/24/20 04:02 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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They are changing the river all the way up to the East and middle fork confluence.

The island below Satko Glenn, the water currently runs to the right facing down river from the confluence. Last fall, a survey crew was marking areas while I was fishing (the best part was shoving a giant measuring stick through the run I was fishing). I asked them why they were taking SO many measurements. The answer: shifting the water to the current dry side of the island. Why? To keep floods from impacting the west side of the river.

Iíve said it a million times...donít want to be flooded? Donít build in a flood plain or right on a river bank.

(Keep in mind it is shallow Froggy water during normal October/November flows but the left side is completely dry as of July when I was up there last)


Edited by jgreen (08/24/20 04:03 PM)

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#1037059 - 08/25/20 10:58 AM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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Any chance these changes are going to help out the highway launch. It was really shallow last season. Didnít try it last year with my jet boat but the couple times I had my raft down there it seem like it would be challenging for anything except high water.

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#1037064 - 08/25/20 12:18 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: BossMan]
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Not unless they move about 2000 cubic yds of gravel. It was rather poor choice for a location, a fact WDFD was made aware of but chose to ignore. As always the staff that made the decisions are mostly gone and we live with their ill advised fantasies.
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#1037382 - 08/29/20 07:31 AM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: BossMan]
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Originally Posted By: BossMan
Any chance these changes are going to help out the highway launch. It was really shallow last season. Didnít try it last year with my jet boat but the couple times I had my raft down there it seem like it would be challenging for anything except high water.


Actually, when you stand on the old bridge and look North, the main flow of the river is back on the East side. Hopefully that will help move the main channel, below the highway bridge back to the East.

Much as I hated to launch and then load boat my boat, after the launch was "improved"......there is no way jet boats can be launched without "very high water".

I MISSED TWITCHING FOR THE "LATES"....THE PAST 4 OR 5 YEARS!!!!!! Come on Mother Nature.......do your thing, move the channel back to the East....
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#1037383 - 08/29/20 07:49 AM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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There is LOTS of work taking place around the Keys Road area.....Time will tell, but it looks to me like the plan is to get the Satsop river back in the channel where it was a few years back, that's back EAST toward Keys Road.....by doing that the Willis property will have almost no impact.......but I see in the plans that a house will be moved away from the river is currently flowing.

Lots of piling being driven, time is short on.....wonder why work wasn't started a few weeks earlier????? Maybe smolt out go??????

Will be an interesting jet boat ride from Fuller Bridge, up the new channel re-build, past all the new pilings to the highway bridges......won't see this old man with his "River Wild boat" in that stretch of the river......


Edited by DrifterWA (08/29/20 07:50 AM)
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#1037390 - 08/29/20 11:14 AM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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The movement of gravel east started when the rip rap fingers were put in to protect the old highway bridge. The river had slowly eroding the West bank so action was taken to protect the bridge foundations. It did just that by moving the gravel East over time. Prior to that the river was a straight shot from the sandstone toe ( above the bridges ) under the bridges to the old gravel bar down stream. The recent movement that took out several acres of the East bank above the bridges in a flood has returned back to more or less the normal track. The gravel build up at the launch is not going anywhere as long as the gravel flow is directed to the East side of the river.

When I was a kid you had a small gravel bar upstream of the old bridge and the water where we went swimming just down from the nursery was 4 ft deep on the East side of the river. The river from the sandstone toe down above the old highway bridge to W's bar was a long deep stretch with the West side being very deep and we used the railroad bridge to jump off of and never hit bottom. By changing the hydrology at the bridges it simply allowed for the river gravel to build up. Best way to think of it is from the sandstone toe above the bridges the river was like a hose cleaning out things until the flows lost that effect and the gravel built up at W's bar. Loose the fire hose effect and gravel builds up.


Edited by Rivrguy (08/30/20 08:04 AM)
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#1037442 - 08/31/20 08:52 AM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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I did another "lookie lou" around the current Satsop Highway boat launch.

If it was the 1980's, problem would be temporary fixed by starting down river below the mid point of the boat ramp...start hauling gravel until you got to the East bound bridge, this would force a change in water flow back to the East side of the river.

BUT ITS 2020......so with all the permitting needed to legally do anything around streams, rivers, lakes, etc. , looks like boat launch will be a "high water" type of boat launch for jet boats or run from Fuller Bridge or come down river from the West Satsop boat launch.

There are more than a few areas, in the old days, when equipment would show up, early on the weekend, mid summer, low water.....gravel would be removed in a way and amount, that during the high water flows in the winter......new river channel, 2 of the those channels are still there, 30+ years later.
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#1037448 - 08/31/20 12:24 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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#1037451 - 08/31/20 02:07 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: kalamageo]
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08/31/2020......

Got a call from someone close to that area of the Satsop:

1. water is starting to flow, in the old channel, close to the pump house by Keys Road.

2. I'd say by the legal opening, 10/01/2010, the Satsop will be back in that old channel.

3. By doing what is being done, the Satsop River bank on the West side of the river will be saved from continuing to wash away. This is called "Willis property", and river was getting close to their home.....think the plan calls for moving a house.

High water, this winter, will let everyone know if the work done......WORKED. We all know "Mother Nature does what Mother Nature wants to do".
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#1037458 - 08/31/20 04:12 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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So will the tidal waters be trashed by debris for the opening?

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#1037461 - 08/31/20 06:09 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: bobrr]
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Originally Posted By: bobrr
So will the tidal waters be trashed by debris for the opening?



Could be, depends........anytime there is a major change in a river, lots of stuff breaks loose.....down river it goes............tide holds up stuff, back and forth it goes....it takes time but the lower river will clear.

Problem I'm having is just moving around......no rain, Chehalis river above Monty is "low water".....even with a high tide, person has to be careful or you will get caught with limited water to run a boat.

My days of walking to areas that I like to fish.....gone, balance is not good, even with wading pole, movement is limited......."stay young, as long as you can"
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#1037462 - 08/31/20 07:11 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: bobrr]
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Originally Posted By: bobrr
So will the tidal waters be trashed by debris for the opening?


create your own report instead of relying on the internet, violin
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#1037465 - 08/31/20 07:34 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: fish4brains]
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Originally Posted By: fish4brains
Originally Posted By: bobrr
So will the tidal waters be trashed by debris for the opening?


create your own report instead of relying on the internet, violin
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#1037466 - 08/31/20 07:38 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: DrifterWA]
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Bobr found my reports quite useful.
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#1037467 - 08/31/20 07:38 PM Re: Satsop River, mouth to bridges [Re: bobrr]
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Quote:
So will the tidal waters be trashed by debris for the opening?


Not really as it takes rain and not a little but enough to bounce the river and then it is muddy water as dust and roads everything is right into the creeks but clears fast the minute rain stops. We all call it nature flushin her toilet

Somewhere in the first half of Nov the river will blow and bay and tidal below South Monte will be slim pickings and that is when the parade of crap is something. All the dried up sticks, limbs, grass and trees just pour down the river with mud. Happens every year.


Edited by Rivrguy (08/31/20 07:40 PM)
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