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#103775 - 10/28/04 07:18 PM sinking leaders
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#103776 - 10/28/04 09:34 PM Re: sinking leaders
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I've been playing with sinking ****, the ones I use are called T-14 it gets down fast!
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#103777 - 10/29/04 03:14 AM Re: sinking leaders
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Registered: 03/06/99
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Loc: Western Washington
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There are some defininate (sp?....Im too lazy to pull up dictionary.com) pros and cons to sinking leaders.

I fish them alot in the summer time. I feel that they give me an edge on summer fish when they aren't totally focused on a straight dry line presentation or when I am fishing over heavily pressured fish.

Sinking leaders do a great job of bring the fly down to the fishie's zone but because they lack the mass to hold the fly down on the swing, the fly tends to ride up much quicker then it would when fished with a standard sink-tip.

I have found this presentation to be very effective in the summer-time. smile

However, I have yet to give them a go in the winter because I've never found winter fish to be overly receptive to fly lifting to the surface so I feel they provide you with a severe disadvantage under your typical winter conditions.
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#103778 - 10/29/04 07:18 AM Re: sinking leaders
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However, I have yet to give them a go in the winter because I've never found winter fish to be overly receptive to fly lifting to the surface so I feel they provide you with a severe disadvantage under your typical winter conditions.
Crap!
Thats probably why I have been getting skunked.

Sparky, do you know who makes the sage lines? I have heard it was SA. Just curious.

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#103780 - 10/29/04 11:57 AM Re: sinking leaders
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Posts: 1273
Loc: Western Washington
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The Sage lines are indeed mfg. by SA however they are not complete with SA's trick AST coating.

I absolutely love the taper of the Performance Taper but have always been disapointed with the durability of the coating and prolonged shootability of the line. However, if you take good care of the line, clean it and treat it with Glide frequently, you should extend the life of your line.
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#103781 - 11/09/04 11:13 PM Re: sinking leaders
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Registered: 09/16/01
Posts: 216
Loc: White City, Oregon
.02 cents here only.

I'm not a sink tip fan by any stretch of the immagination. But getting deep down and dirty as they would say is a must under given conditions.

What I 'do' is take a full dry line and a 2-3 foot section of 'butt section' (and your leader is probably already set up this way anyway) and put a loop in the end.

Here I attach either a RIO or Airflo sinking leader/tippet/fly. The above system would seem improbable, hinge like hell, etc., but it dosen't. The 2-3 of butt acts "disconnects" the dry line from the sinking leader and allow it to get down, and NOW. If you're using a weighted fly, even faster.

You can also use T-14 for the same system bennie of this is it's very thin so water flow doesn't push it to the surface anywhere as fast as you'd get with a 'standard' sink tip.

A good thing.
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#103782 - 11/16/04 10:41 PM Re: sinking leaders
summerrun Offline
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Registered: 11/05/00
Posts: 2374
Loc: Seattle
I used that butt section setup today just to see and it does work very well. Thanks for the tip!
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#103783 - 11/25/04 06:21 AM Re: sinking leaders
fred evans Offline
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Registered: 09/16/01
Posts: 216
Loc: White City, Oregon
Your most welcome! Only 'secret' to this system is the butt section (7wt's and up) has to be at least 30# siff mono such as Maxima. A light 7wt and down you can/could use 25# test.

It's the 'stiffness' of the mono section that transmits the casting energy into the sinking leader (just like with a full dry line/leader combo). Too limp ... the whole thing will "hinge" on you and collapes.
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