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#1030233 - 05/14/20 08:07 PM Can anyone stand a little good news?
Soft bite Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 11/11/08
Posts: 144
Loc: Central Park
The Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) has been positive (meaning unfavorable warm ocean conditions) nearly every month from January 2014 through December 2019. In fact 2015 and 2016 had the worst positive PDO readings ever recorded.

The first four months of 2020 have all had negative PDO readings indicating favorable ocean conditions for the smolt out migration going on right now. The 2020 terminal Chehalis coho return is forecasted to be 70,000 fish. All things being equal (they never are), the negative PDO could be forecasting a 2021 coho run in the range of 120,000 fish.

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#1030234 - 05/14/20 09:25 PM Re: Can anyone stand a little good news? [Re: Soft bite]
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River Nutrients

Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 4721
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...

Well now that is some good news....

Thanks......maybe it will help the 2020 summer run steelhead......2019 was the worse I've seen in my 40+ years of chasing summer run steelhead, locally .
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#1030235 - 05/14/20 09:30 PM Re: Can anyone stand a little good news? [Re: DrifterWA]
Rivrguy Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 3542
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
Thanks for the info SB!
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#1030242 - 05/15/20 07:55 AM Re: Can anyone stand a little good news? [Re: Soft bite]
Carcassman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 5952
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
That's good for us down here. But, the shift in PDO will crash Alaska. Not that they'll fish less, they'll just get less of their fish.

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#1030247 - 05/15/20 09:54 AM Re: Can anyone stand a little good news? [Re: Soft bite]
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Registered: 01/27/15
Posts: 3669
Ready the nets!!

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#1030257 - 05/15/20 02:07 PM Re: Can anyone stand a little good news? [Re: Carcassman]
darth baiter Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 04/04/10
Posts: 104
Loc: United States
Actually, Alaska has constrained the SEAK troll fishery from the PST max allowed when their own stocks were in trouble. They don't when its only nonAlaska stocks that are hurting.

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#1030431 - 05/19/20 07:55 PM Re: Can anyone stand a little good news? [Re: Soft bite]
slabhunter Offline
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Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3665
Loc: Sheltona Beach
Thanks for the good news! That and the herring spawn bode well for the future.
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#1038200 - 09/16/20 08:36 PM Re: Can anyone stand a little good news? [Re: Soft bite]
Soft bite Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 11/11/08
Posts: 144
Loc: Central Park
The probable large return of jacks being reported may be a confirmation of an improved run for 2021. The PDO for 2020 year to date is through July is -0.26.

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#1038236 - 09/17/20 12:52 PM Re: Can anyone stand a little good news? [Re: Soft bite]
wsu Offline
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Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 413
Where do you find the monthly values? The UW site I used to look at is no longer updated.

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#1038292 - 09/17/20 08:40 PM Re: Can anyone stand a little good news? [Re: Soft bite]
Soft bite Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 11/11/08
Posts: 144
Loc: Central Park

I used to follow the UW site until it went dead. I do not know much about this one.


http://www.data.jma.go.jp/gmd/kaiyou/data/db/climate/pdo/pdo.txt

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