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#511506 - 05/29/09 01:46 PM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: RowVsWade]
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Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
What I do find ironic is that the institution of marriage is primarily a religious invention and those who seek to have it sanction their unions are historically the ones who have shunned religion the most.


+1

Ironic and then some.

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#511510 - 05/29/09 02:08 PM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
Originally Posted By: RowVsWade

What I do find ironic is that the institution of marriage is primarily a religious invention and those who seek to have it sanction their unions are historically the ones who have been shunned by religious groups the most.


Either way you slice it, the state shouldn't be having anything to do with marriage.


But if it is a states rights issue then doesn't the state have grounds to set the rules?

I had to get a permit/license from the government to get married. Which btw fwiw wasn't in a church.
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#511526 - 05/29/09 02:58 PM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
File a domestic partnership agreement, pay a filing fee, and that should be it. No reason for a state to make a determination as to 'fitness of relationship' so to speak and open themselves up to defending multiple suits challenging their view.


That would make too much sense. It would kind of take care of this whole mess rather efficiently.
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#511538 - 05/29/09 03:49 PM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: RowVsWade]
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Iowa (Iowa for pete's sake!) already ruled that state law prohibiting same sex unions/marriage was invalid:

"Iowa lawmakers have "excluded a historically disfavored class of persons from a supremely important civil institution without a constitutionally sufficient justification."

To issue any other decision, the justices said, "would be an abdication of our constitutional duty.""

California's Prop 8 ( 8 = hate grin ) was upheld because the complaint against it said it illegally amended the state constitution.

I think they were avoiding testing deeper waters to see if they could get it repealed this way.

States rights seem to fly based on the administration in charge at the federal level.
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#511566 - 05/29/09 05:05 PM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: Mikespike]
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"Iowa lawmakers have "excluded a historically disfavored class of persons from a supremely important civil institution without a constitutionally sufficient justification."

Its a for lack of better terms, its a behavior choice. What defines a civil union, do they have to be romatically involved or could I civil union one of my broke ass buddies to get ahead on my taxes or to get him benefits etc?


Edited by willametteriveroutlaw (05/29/09 05:06 PM)
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#511571 - 05/29/09 05:13 PM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Quote:
could I civil union one of my broke back mountain ass buddies to get ahead on my taxes?


There, fixed it. grin


more like hump back mountain rofl

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#511580 - 05/29/09 05:25 PM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: dewbie]
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Kinda' like an "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry" thing?

In the fairness to straight men I feel obliged to include a clip of Jessica Biel from that movie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk46dN0ffvg
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#511613 - 05/29/09 07:22 PM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: RowVsWade]
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#1042800 - 11/27/20 09:54 PM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: NOFISH]
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#1042807 - 11/28/20 07:58 AM Re: A test for Republicans? [Re: fish4brains]
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I dredge up old threads no one gives a fvck about. Why you say? BEEP

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