#1049626 - 03/30/21 07:19 AM
Re: Broodstocking
[Re: eddie]
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River Nutrients
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Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
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Problem with summer-runs is that they overlap with salmon and mess up all those salmon fisheries, especially net. A large summer run return could easily conflict with Chinook fisheries. The neat thing about winters, from a manager's perspective, is that there is not a whole lot of "bycatch" to worry about.
I don't eat steelhead, so the dietary arguments Doc makes don't mean much but I would much rather fish in the summer that in the dead of winter (in WA). Dead of winter in Costa Rica or Hawaii is fine, though.
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#1049631 - 03/30/21 08:36 AM
Re: Broodstocking
[Re: eddie]
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Registered: 03/16/00
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Loc: snohomish, wa
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Plant more fish winter runs, summer runs more opportunity more fishing. Just because I don’t fish for this fish or that fish does not make me want to shut down your favorite fishery just as long as I get to have my fishery being so selfish to only care about my fishing and the heck with your chosen fishing. It’s fishing for crying out loud. And if we judge every fishery by the cost versus returns we would have no fishing. Or just join WFC and close fishing down for everyone cause we’re so selfish and you want control of everyone else’s life. Give me more opportunity more fish, plant more fish try broodstock or whatever works.
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#1049649 - 03/30/21 10:06 AM
Re: Broodstocking
[Re: eddie]
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Winter steeheading is such a popular sport for so many people who grew up here. I agree with thaxor about with no winter hatchery fish there isn't a whole lot to do in the winter months for angler. Plus winter steelhead fishing generates money for the economy in quite a few ways. I also agree with Francis that winter steelhead are not the greatest table fare but I smoke the steelhead I catch anyway and they are ok that way. I have caught summer steelhead late in the year (Sept-Oct.) that didn't taste very good cooked either. Thaxor, the Wynooche summer steelie run has not been good the last couple of years, especially two years ago. So, you are not the only one having difficulty finding them. Poor ocean conditions is the explanation.
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#1049656 - 03/30/21 11:44 AM
Re: Broodstocking
[Re: eddie]
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River Nutrients
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Wynoochee summer run..... many that post on here, don't remember the 1st plants of these summer run, there are still a few locals that post here, do remember. It was and has been a awesome fishery over the years, except for the past 2 summers.
Problem I see.....plants on both summer run and winter run on the Wynoochee have remained the same WHILE THE FISHING PUBLIC NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED BY THE THOUSANDS, PLUS THE DRIFT BOATS AND JETBOATS HAVE INCREASED AT THE SAME RATE.
Summer Run ARE far superior to winter run as far as fresh eating, smoking and "smoked and canned", while not a "springer", not a bad 2nd.
Oh, another problem I see....QIN net winter run steelhead, tried to do summer run but didn't do so well, I'm not sure summer run steelhead could ever be greatly increased without QIN ok...... what are the chances????
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#1049693 - 03/30/21 02:48 PM
Re: Broodstocking
[Re: eddie]
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Carcass
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Valencia, Negros Oriental, Phi...
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I agree that winter run doesn't taste all that great but it ain't bad. And it's great to have something to fish for in the winter!!!!
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#1049816 - 03/31/21 07:31 PM
Re: Broodstocking
[Re: eddie]
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Registered: 01/30/13
Posts: 233
Loc: Skagit
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Winter steelhead don't taste good? What a fine example of a first world problem.
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#1049897 - 04/01/21 02:47 PM
Re: Broodstocking
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Valencia, Negros Oriental, Phi...
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Winter steelhead don't taste good? What a fine example of a first world problem. Fair point!
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#1050223 - 04/07/21 02:26 PM
Re: Broodstocking
[Re: eyeFISH]
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Frankly, I just don't get why anybody in the hatchery world wants to invest in harvest programs for winter steel.
In terms of food value, they rank right up there with brown CR tules or dark coastal chinook... basically a fat-free carcass full of eggs or sperm.
You want hatchery steelhead to harvest? Plant summer runs... a much higher snd better use of limited dollars for hatchery programs Yea that! Better conditions to fish and better fighters too!
Edited by RUNnGUN (04/07/21 02:27 PM)
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