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#1059870 - 06/08/22 11:38 AM NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023
Steeldrifter Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 02/23/08
Posts: 171
Loc: Pierce county
https://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/management/north-falcon/summaries#ps-freshwater

Just using the Puyallup basin as an example.

Carbon river gets 30 days for salmon fishing with 12 of those days subtracted for the tribal netting closures. yet!!!!! they do not net up that high. WTF ! Looks and smells like Skokomish river relived?

Puyallup
Puyallup River – 11th St. Bridge to East Main Street Bridge Aug. 16 – Sep. 30 (Closed Sundays-Tues 8/16 - Sep.30) 12” 6 Daily limit 6. 2 adults. Release wild Chinook and chum. Night closure, anti-snagging rule, barbless hooks.
Puyallup River – East Main Street Bridge to Carbon River Aug. 16 – Sep. 30 (Closed Sundays-Tues 8/16-Sep.30) 12” 6 Daily limit 6. 2 adults. Release wild Chinook and chum. Night closure, anti-snagging rule, barbless hooks.
Carbon River – mouth to Voight Creek Sept. 1 – Sep. 30 (Closed Sundays-Tues. Sept. 1 – Sep.30) 12” 6 Daily limit 6. 2 adults. Release wild Chinook and chum. Night closure, anti-snagging rule and barbless hooks.

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#1059871 - 06/08/22 01:07 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
5 * General Evo Offline
Lord of the Chums

Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6788
every year i email the bio out here, Tara, when this BS comes out... the bulk majority of the hatchery coho return to Voights in October, closing it September 30th is BS..

they did the same thing last year, but then changed it to November 30th, which i hope they do it this year again as well...

everyone goes home by then anyways, and i have the river to myself for the most part...
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#1059873 - 06/08/22 01:17 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Streamer Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 2233
Loc: T-Town
What is WDFW intending to do with the thousands of surplus carcasses of excess returning fish? There seems to be a trend occurring.


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#1059874 - 06/08/22 01:24 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Thumbburner Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 05/31/19
Posts: 8
NOF (No one out fishing)

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#1059879 - 06/08/22 04:06 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Krijack Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1446
Loc: Tacoma
Both these regulations seem very strange, and someone should have an answer. We do not have to like it, they need to explain it. Have you ever got a response that explained their position Evo?

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#1059880 - 06/08/22 08:38 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Lifter99 Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 12/01/18
Posts: 196
WDFW wants all the carcasses they can get because they peddle them to the highest bidder.

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#1059882 - 06/09/22 12:18 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Mike Gilchrist Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 06/19/01
Posts: 175
Loc: Federal Way
I remembered my login here... dumb luck.

For the answers on the Puyallup system, see the WDFW link below and expand "What is the difference between the 2022 plan and the 2017 plan?"


https://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/management/puget-sound-management-plan
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#1059883 - 06/09/22 01:09 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Steeldrifter Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 02/23/08
Posts: 171
Loc: Pierce county
Thank you for the link. Wow 2022-2027 Plan. Does that mean after September we will get to continue to fish/retain Salmon 7 days a week until the river closes end of November or December? Or is that the full season?


Edited by Steeldrifter (06/09/22 01:14 PM)

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#1059891 - 06/10/22 07:46 AM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Mike Gilchrist Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 06/19/01
Posts: 175
Loc: Federal Way
Originally Posted By: Steeldrifter
Thank you for the link. Wow 2022-2027 Plan. Does that mean after September we will get to continue to fish/retain Salmon 7 days a week until the river closes end of November or December? Or is that the full season?


I don't know with certainty. Regs will be published soon enough.

At North of Falcon, Puyallup Coho was a constraining conservation concern this year. The regs after September for this year may, or may not, have any link to the agreement.

That webpage is intended to be limited to info about Chinook management but since those restrictions are within a side agreement (not the Chinook management plan) I am not jumping to conclusions. Also, the policy people at the department often don't personally edit the WDFW site so I keep in mind that there is opportunity for human error, or non policy people could omit some of the details.
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#1059894 - 06/10/22 08:39 AM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Steeldrifter Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 02/23/08
Posts: 171
Loc: Pierce county
Guess we will just have to wait and see when the regs come out. Thanks again Mike!

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#1059906 - 06/14/22 11:08 AM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: 5 * General Evo]
GodLovesUgly Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 04/20/09
Posts: 1248
Loc: WaRshington
Originally Posted By: 5 * General Evo
\ the bulk majority of the hatchery coho return to Voights in October, closing it September 30th is BS..


This is the states MO pretty much across the board these days:

(1) Incorrectly/underforecast the return.
(2) When harvest numbers are strong, submit emergency closure.
(3) Keep fishery closed during bulk of the run. Re-evaluate fishery and dertmine harvestable surplus still exists.
(4) Re-open fishing after the run has alread passed through to feign "opportunity". No one catches anything.
(5) Rinse. Repeat.
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#1059908 - 06/14/22 12:35 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Larry B Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2982
Loc: University Place and Whidbey I...
Just an FYI that PSA Gig Harbor has been involved in nutrient enhancement on the upper Puyallup River and tributaries utilizing both Chinook and Coho carcasses so that is where some of them go.
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#1059912 - 06/14/22 04:42 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Lifter99]
Rivrguy Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 3994
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
Quote:
WDFW wants all the carcasses they can get because they peddle them to the highest bidder.


Well yes you could say that as it is true but not the manner you seem to imply. The agency opens the E&C contract for bids is true but the contract is for all surplus fish regardless of condition and number. Any funds generated by volunteer projects go to the project and state facilities goes to the RFEG's to be utilized in the volunteers efforts with salmon. The agency itself gets no benefit. Help ya?
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#1059935 - 06/17/22 05:24 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
RUNnGUN Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 1207
MA 9 opens for 3 days this summer. Maybe more if the tribes agree. July 14th-16th. Just looked at the tides for that period. The worst minus tides and total exchanges to deal with for salmon fishing. If the tribes have to give us recs time on the water, might as well be the worst potential conditions available.
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#1059940 - 06/19/22 08:00 AM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Smalma Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/25/01
Posts: 2817
Loc: Marysville
RUNnGUN-

According to the co-managers list of agreed to fisheries (LOAF) the MA 9 summer chinook season is open July 14 through 16, reopens again July 21 to 23 and again July 28 through August 15 with the season length depending on if or when the established quota is reached.

Those 3-day openers and the starting date of July 14th first day were the result of the recreational angler community requests.

Curt

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#1059941 - 06/19/22 09:26 AM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Steeldrifter]
Thumbburner Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 05/31/19
Posts: 8
To say it was a request is somewhat deceiving, the state started with not opening until August 1. The sporting community wanted days in July and I’m sure they would have liked it to be open more days with a more abundant quota.

This will most likely be like the Area 11 June opener, quota eliminated in three days.

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#1059942 - 06/19/22 02:21 PM Re: NOF agreed to salmon fisheries 2023 [Re: Thumbburner]
Flatbrim Pescador Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 07/13/21
Posts: 382
Originally Posted By: Thumbburner
NOF (No one out fishing)


It actually stands for Native Only Fishing.

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