Why must there be an equal distribution?

CM,


If fascism is a segment of the far right, then communism could be seen as a segment of the far left. Are you also one of those crazies that believes there is no such thing as the extreme left? Or are you blind to believe that one is worse or more extreme than the other?


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Not at all. I believe that the left includes communists and socialists and so on. My quastion was why you think that the two extremes have equal numbers.

We have seen that both extremes are capable of extreme evil; one would have to be blind not to see that.

CM,


To answer your question, because both sides (R and D) have roughly the same numbers and a 50/50 split within the population. I think personality types and the influence of society and culture tend to distribute pretty evenly across this spectrum in terms of numbers when scaled outward. I would actually hypothesize there are more people far left than far right but not by much.


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Aha, so your evidence is largely anecdotal opinion as well. But really, do we need to quibble about society as a binomial distribution and which side has more extremists?

Trump is a fascist. However, fascism is not the most extreme right wing position. Anarchy, the total absence of government, therefore the "smallest" government that conservatives claim to want, is the most extreme right wing position.

Meanwhile, Trump supports the contention that he is a fascist. Just yesterday in his speech he complainingly asked "what is wrong with the public?" Apparently some of his inside advisors had enough guts to inform him that his popularity is not at 90% after all. Trump says he has the "right" policy. He wondered aloud why he/they even have to run against Democrats (who have all the "wrong" policies, in elections. He would like to cancel elections, but then people would call him a dictator, he said.

Trump's actions have concentrated most of the government's power in himself and the executive branch, pushing the Congress and courts to the wayside. Hard to be more of a dictator than this. Trump is concentrating power among himself and billionaire corporate elites. He's exacting tribute (a % of gross trade) from certain companies for the privilege he's allowing them to do business. He's trying to stifle news media that criticizes him and has exacted tribute from ABC, NBC, and CBS broadcasters (another story in itself.). He's stifling academic freedom because it doesn't align with his worldview. It's hard to be more fascist than these examples indicate.

In addition to being a fascist, Trump is batsh!t crazy, as exemplified by his kidnapping of Venezuelan president Mauduro. First it was about the fentanyl, but Venezuela doesn't traffic fentanyl, Mexican cartels do. So Trump commits war crimes by bombing boats coming from Venezuela that may, or may not, have been trafficking drugs, but we'll never know since no evidence was provided or collected. Then Trump kidnaps the (illegitimate) president of a sovereign country because he wants the oil that he alleges Venezuela "stole" from the U.S. This is insane on so many levels, where to begin.

Venezuela has oil. Therefore it belongs to Venezuela, and the country or its businesses can sell oil on the global market. Some U.S. oil companies invested in developing the oil industry in Venezuela. Venezuela nationalized its oil industry in 1976. That was the country's prerogative. When a company does business in another nation, it does so under the best deal it can arrange in that country. There are no guarantees. And the U.S. government has no duty nor obligation to intervene in the business and affairs of other sovereign nations. Oil companies took a business risk, and they lost, end of story. Unless you're an oil industry hedge fund billionaire who bought the failing Citgo - Venezuela's main oil company - for pennies on the dollar, and donated millions to Trump's campaign and otherwise sucked him off enough to get him to stage a military invasion and kidnapping to further the billionaire's business interests.

Now Trump the imbecile says he runs Venezuela. Venezuela's interim president says he doesn't and is acting kinda' like Mauduro by detaining journalists who wrote or broadcasted positively about the American invasion. What is Trump's plan? By all indications he doesn't have one beyond staging the kidnapping.

Trump wants Greenland. For national security, allegedly. Greenland in a territory of Denmark (for 300 years or so). Denmark is a member of NATO. So the U.S. already has a defense pact with Greenland through NATO. If the U.S. takes Greenland by force, Trump breaks with NATO, and under Article 5 the U.S. would become the wartime enemy of all NATO countries. By taking Greenland, Trump would basically be declaring war against most of Europe. Most of Europe would then be at war with the U.S. How smart is your genius Trump?

Yeah, Trump is a fascist. He doesn't understand the Constitution and ignores it. He has no respect for the law. He acts like the law is whatever he wants it to be, based on his current whim, subject to arbitrary change, of course. Trump breaks or defys U.S. law and tradition daily, and breaks international norms in between. This is what you voted for. Because Biden/Harris bad. Hah!

*Yawn*… TLDR. Don’t you get tired of your bullschit ramblings?

That’s still an opinion you have there Somali Salmo.

“In response to multiple authors claiming that the then-presidential candidate Donald Trump was a fascist, a 2016 article for Vox cited five historians who study fascism, including Roger Griffin, author of The Nature of Fascism, who stated that Trump either does not hold or even is opposed to several political viewpoints that are integral to fascism, including viewing violence as an inherent good and an inherent rejection of or opposition to a democratic system.”

John Fetterman, a longtime Democratic and critic of Trump also agrees where he “criticized the usage of the term fascist by his own party, arguing that it didn't reflect any politicial reality.”

Yeah wake up bro. He isn’t a fascist. Only in your embellished, hyperbolic and ill-conceived opinion.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_and_fascism#:~:text=Trumpism%20heavily%20features%20authoritarian%20elements,Trump%20as%20authoritarian%20and%20populist.

No doubt that! The difference is most would not let them get elected as president and allow them to stay if elected. Those party factions are generally kept in check. Most would open their eyes and ears to what BS is going on, call out loudly to oust the extremist on either side. I have trouble understanding the blind denial of what's currently going on and how followers don't question or protest? MT Green comes to mind again. Where are the others! Wimps! Oh, it's because death and career threats of opposition is the only way to keep them in check and hold the power. If that isn't fascism what is? Get out and catch some steel. Some of the best hatchery returns their have been in years.

Trump posted a picture of himself as acting president of Venezuela.

Trump doesn't want to use the money from selling Venezuelan oil to reimburse oil companies whose property was seized by Chavez in 2008. He wants to put all the Venezuelan oil money in his own off shore bank account.

Trump changed the White House website to state that Jan. 6, 2021 was a peaceful protest made violent by the Capital police.

Trump wants Greenland, either the "easy way or the hard way." Presumably the dumb fvcker knows that Greenland, via Denmark, is a NATO member. Under Article 5, a U.S. attack on Greenland would start a war with all NATO nations. And technically speaking, a war with the U.S. as well, although such an attack would likely result in the expulsion of the U.S. from NATO. Even a few Republicans are pushing back at Trump's idiocy.

Yeah, Trump's no fascist, no dictator.

Soft agreement here. The difference is that most people wouldn’t go as far as to call Trump a fascist. If he was truly a fascist, he would have been kept “in check” as you said and not actually elected.

This whole fiasco with ICE isn’t the problem. It’s the inevitable messy cleanup of the prior administration that had completely open borders that allowed millions of illegal immigrants to come into the country and provide incentives for them to do so. Please name me 1 other country in the world that allows this to happen.


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These funds are being deposited into U.S.-controlled bank accounts, including a primary/main account located in Qatar. This is not his own personal off shore bank account. The funds are intended to benefit the Venezuelan people (e.g., humanitarian aid, rebuilding infrastructure like the oil sector, purchasing U.S. goods such as equipment, medicine, or food) and potentially the American people by buying American-made products/services to support Venezuela's recovery, with U.S. firms potentially involved in rebuilding PDVSA (Venezuela's state oil company) infrastructure. The setup keeps the funds out of reach of Venezuela's government and creditors for now, prioritizing stabilization over debt repayment. No dictator or fascism involved here.

Does anyone other than Trump have control of the money deposited in Qatar? If not, then yes to dictator and fascist.

The funds are in the name of the US government via the Treasury Department. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent together effectively hold signatory control and decision-making authority over disbursements, not Trump so I guess by your rubric he is not a dictator or fascist. Bessent has described the US as "the bankers here; we don’t direct the funds," this means the Treasury oversees and manages the accounts, with disbursements directed back into Venezuela (e.g., for food, medicine, government operations, security, or exchange via private Venezuelan banks). So the account is under US government authority and Trump is the head of the US government but Trump does not have direct control over the money so it is not true what you said that this money is in "his own off shore bank account."

Somali Salmo has been wrong about a lot lately…



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"so I guess by your rubric he is not a dictator or fascist."

That Trump doesn't own and control the accounts personally doesn't mean he isn't a dictator or fascist. It only means that his minions have signatory control, and his minions are all sycophants. So Trump effectively controls the money.

Salmo,


It seems like you continue to be proven wrong on this topic of Trump being a fascist. As I often do with you, I have to repeat myself because you are forgetful, but many scholars have determined that Trump does not fall into the category of fascism. The only people who believe that are nasty, weird, blue-haired freaks, and deranged boomers like yourself who take CNN as the gospel. Don’t believe me? Take a minute to probe any of the people in the crowds at the anti-ice protests. It really speaks for itself.



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Are you kidding me? Trump has control of everything! Through his exec. orders, directives, or fist hand. Those that don't follow are ousted. Wacko trumpanzee support no matter what, I guess. You sounded smarter than that.

*Sigh*…


This post above really proves my point. I don’t think RUNnGun is a blue-haired wacko, but he likely falls into the category of deranged boomer who watches too much CNN. There are plenty of people in Trump’s cabinet who have not followed or agreed with his positions fully, including recent former Democrats. If one was not so cynical and beguiled by the pervasive, hateful rhetoric pushed by media and the opposition and able to be more objective, they wouldn’t make such statements.


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Possibly Officially pretty soon.. "Trump Is A Dictator"

He is appointed now,, a dictator now...

Its the only way to clean this country up,, via a military intervention...

Trump was put into power by the Military...

Once the corporate government figures out that Trump was installed by the Military they are really going to try and fight back...

Once Trump Declares the Insurrection Act its game on... You will see the state and local governments in the Blue States start to fight for their lives because they will know that the jig is up...

This has always been the intent,, to force the corporate government entities to expose themselves,, to destroy themselves...

Cadet Bone Spurs, aka Dictator Trump, is certifiably insane. Here's some cut & paste from H.C. Richardson's Letters from an American:

"Late last night, Nick Schifrin of PBS NewsHour posted on social media that the staff of the U.S. National Security Council had sent to European ambassadors in Washington a message that President Donald J. Trump had already sent to Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre of Norway. The message read:

“Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a ‘right of ownership’ anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT”

Faisal Islam of the BBC voiced the incredulity rippling across social media in the wake of Schifrin’s post, writing: “Even by the standards of the past week, like others, I struggle to comprehend how the below letter on Greenland/Nobel might be real, although it appears to come from the account of a respected PBS journalist… this is what I meant by beyond precedent, parody and reality….” Later, Islam confirmed on live TV that the letter was real and posted on X: “Incredible… the story is actually not a parody.”

International affairs journalist Anne Applebaum noted in The Atlantic the childish grammar in the message, and pointed out—again—that the Norwegian Nobel Committee is not the same thing as the Norwegian government, and neither of them is Denmark, a different country. She also noted that Trump did not, in fact, end eight wars, that Greenland has been Danish for centuries, that many “written documents” establish Danish sovereignty there, that Trump has done nothing for NATO, and that European NATO members increased defense spending out of concern over Russia’s increasing threat.

This note, she writes, “should be the last straw.” It proves that “Donald Trump now genuinely lives in a different reality, one in which neither grammar nor history nor the normal rules of human interaction now affect him. Also, he really is maniacally, unhealthily obsessive about the Nobel Prize.” Applebaum implored Republicans in Congress “to stop Trump from acting out his fantasy in Greenland and doing permanent damage to American interests.” “They owe it to the American people,” she writes, “and to the world.”

Former Vice President Dick Cheney’s doctor Jonathan Reiner agreed: “This letter, and the fact that the president directed that it be distributed to other European countries, should trigger a bipartisan congressional inquiry into presidential fitness.”"

Is Trump really so fvckin' stupid that he doesn't know Norway and Denmark are not the same countries or governments? Greenland is not a government sub-division of Norway. And the government of Norway has no control of the Nobel Committee.

Trump is a traitor. Here's why: Ukraine was suspicious that the U.S. was sharing intelligence with Russia. So Ukraine devised a test by creating a piece of false intelligence and shared it only with their U.S. intelligence counterparts. Sure enough, that false information showed up with Russian intelligence as observed by a Ukrainian spy. Trump cannot be trusted, but I figured that was already general knowledge to most people.

For you MAGA cult members, MAGAtards, and Trump sycophants, is there any action that Trump could take that would cross the line of acceptability? Maybe he really could shoot a person on Fifth Avenue and you would still vote for him. What would he have to do to lose your support? Can Trump do no wrong in your eyes? Would you be OK with him raping your wife or killing your child? Would that be a step too far for you to support?