#109974 - 03/21/01 12:34 AM
Favorite Steelhead Hook Survey.....
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 337
Loc: Tacoma, WA,
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Thought it would be fun and educational to combine our success with Steelhead hooks to see if there is one brand, color and style that is used more than others. My favorite hooks are Gamakatsu Octopus in Black and Red.
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#109976 - 03/21/01 01:19 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3007
Loc: Browns Point,Wa. USA
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VMC cone-cut straight points in red. Cheaper and not as brittle as Gamakatsu's, however difficult to find.
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#109977 - 03/21/01 01:46 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/12/00
Posts: 447
Loc: tacoma, Washington, US
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Gamies are great for everything except drifting. You can't sharpen them. If you don't have the hands to sharpen hook, then use them. But if you have the skill to make hooks sharp, then use the cheap eagle claw, vmc, or mustand.
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#109978 - 03/21/01 08:06 AM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 05/25/00
Posts: 173
Loc: Seattle
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Like gammies too, but recently bought some Owners cutting point and this are nice hooks too.
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#109979 - 03/21/01 09:08 AM
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Fry
Registered: 02/17/01
Posts: 35
Loc: bellingham, wa, whatcom
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I will go for the gammies too, black or gold are my favorite. keep em sharp.
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#109980 - 03/21/01 09:21 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4167
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
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I use Mustad 92553. Only takes < 10 seconds to sharpen them with a hook hone. The areas I fish tend to be a little snaggy and $0.07/hook is the right price.
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#109981 - 03/21/01 10:30 AM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 01/30/00
Posts: 182
Loc: Poulsbo,WA.
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Gammies, never had one break and need minimul sharpening. Size 1 & 1/0 red octopus.
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#109983 - 03/21/01 11:08 AM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/19/01
Posts: 106
Loc: Rochester WA
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I,ve seen the light. I used to swear by Gami's now I swear at them. For half the money I've been switched to Daiichi bleeding bait hooks in red ever since last summer. They are a thinner diameter hook but they are just as strong as a Gami and are sharper out of the box.
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#109985 - 03/21/01 03:24 PM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/19/01
Posts: 106
Loc: Rochester WA
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Shawn, Sportco in Fife has them in the single pack but they're priced to high. I buy mine from Hagens ( www.hagensfish.com or 1-800-541-4586)out of Mitchell, SD. They run about $14.00 for a size 2 100 pack. I switched last late spring when summer run steelie fishin on the Cowlitz. I had a better hook-up ratio after I switched. On the down side I have bent some when snagged on the bottem, but I have'nt straightend any on fish.
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#109986 - 03/21/01 03:30 PM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 12/29/99
Posts: 1604
Loc: Vancouver, Washington
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Personnally I like VMC conecut straight point. Color doesn't seem to make much difference for me but I'll take red if I can find it. Gammie's have a great reputation but to me they're too expensive, too thick, and have a curved point. I much prefer a hook with a thin diameter and a straight, knife-like point.
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#109987 - 03/21/01 06:43 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 03/06/01
Posts: 1200
Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
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Yup, the gammies are the sharpest thing out of the box but they don't straighten out on rocks and don't sharpen as well. I go with the VMC open-eye Siwash on my gear. It has a much wider gap, a longer thinner point, will bend off of rocks, sharpens nicely with a hook file and is magnitudes cheaper. Also, the gammies only come in that hideously bright stainless steel (a problem for summer fish), and the VMC's come in a more subtle bronze color.
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#109989 - 03/21/01 08:43 PM
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Parr
Registered: 01/21/00
Posts: 69
Loc: Seattle, Washington
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Quick note on Vision: The hooks are great, if you get a whole set without any defects. Twice I have purchased small packs that have had several defective hooks (obviously bent, eye that wasn't even half-way closed, etc...)
maybe I was unlucky...
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#109991 - 03/22/01 12:46 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/27/00
Posts: 292
Loc: Playboy mansion
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Gammies are great hooks, but at an average of $2.49 for a 6 or 8 pack...OUCH!!! For the money (less than 1/2 the price of Gammy), VISION is a helluva good hook. I've been using them for a while now with no problems and they are super sharp too because they are chemically sharpened just like Gammies.
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#109992 - 03/22/01 05:07 AM
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Price no factor, I like the cerise Gammy octopus hook. But price is almost aways a factor, and I agree with Saukit about the Visions. - RT
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#109993 - 03/22/01 07:51 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 562
Loc: austin, Minnesota, USA
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On our limestone bedrock rivers, you can't beat a mustad 92141. Breaks your heart to use a gammy, make one drift, get a bedrock hookup with the point of your hook, and cut it off. At least the mustads can be sharpened. A $5 hook file goes a long way.
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#109994 - 03/22/01 08:51 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 03/24/99
Posts: 371
Loc: Port Orchard Wa Kitsap
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Ive always used Gammy's but there gettin too expensive @ $26.00 per 100. Went to Sportco on the way home and picked up some dihatchi hooks last night. I looked at all the hooks they had even opening a couple packs of Mustads and such and the dihatchi is very, very, very sharp and consistant at half the price of the Gammy's. I tied 20 leaders last night for tomarrow and it was hard to keep them from sticking to my fingers. Ill change now if they stay consistant and hold up well. I tied no.4 dual hook cheater rigs so I dont know how the bigger hooks really are, but if they are as nice as the smaller ones Ill change! And I swore by Gammy!!! But only time will tell Ill give a report on there ability's Monday.
Bob D
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#109995 - 03/22/01 11:26 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/05/00
Posts: 553
Loc: Everett, Wa, USA
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When I can find them I like the Mustad 9263 finewire hooks. You do have to sharpen them. I have found that my hook up to land ratio is the best with these hooks. They are strong enough to handle Steelhead, and Silvers. I switch to Gammies for the Bigger fish.
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#109996 - 03/22/01 08:38 PM
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13951
Loc: Mitulaville
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Hmm, don't know why, but I'm all of a suddent a Big Fan of Visison Hooks! Wait until you see their new jigs! They ROCK!  Parker
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#109997 - 03/22/01 11:51 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/26/99
Posts: 745
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Gammies and VMC connecut for me. VMC's have a less sharp hook bend which helps for immediate penetration. Ive also had success with Vision hooks. Hook importance diminishes if you know WHEN to set the hook.lol
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#109998 - 03/23/01 12:48 AM
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BUCK NASTY!!
Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6312
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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OWNER Cutting Point, DUH!!!!!!
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#109999 - 03/23/01 03:30 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/27/00
Posts: 2447
Loc: Stumpy Acres
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Gammi man for years and love em but have switched to Vision for price reasons and they seem to have come around and are definently a good hook.They are worth a try guys so buy some and give em a shot..I havent had a chance to use 2/0 and 3/0 but the smaller are working great for me..TM
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#110000 - 03/23/01 07:52 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 10/25/00
Posts: 318
Loc: OlyWa
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Ihookum -
I went to hagenfish site and could not find anything about hooks. I would like to know more.
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#110001 - 03/23/01 08:12 AM
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Parr
Registered: 01/04/01
Posts: 62
Loc: Port Orchard, Wa. USA
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Owner needle point is also hard to beat, My friend is a sales Rep for Vision and you can't beat the price for the barrel swivels and snap swivels, seem to be the best I have found, But I think the hooks are brittle, The Owner needle point has the same style point as the gammie, And just as sharp, But half the price as the Owner cutting point 1.50 for 10 hooks at Sportco.. have a good one.
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#110002 - 03/24/01 12:33 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 337
Loc: Tacoma, WA,
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 Thanks everyone,I am going to head down to Sportco and pick up some Owners, Daiichi and Vision's to see if my hook up ratio increases. If there is one hook that seems to outperform the other I'll post it for more feedback. ------------------ Tight Lines & Wet Nets! Scott
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#110003 - 03/25/01 01:46 AM
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 07/15/00
Posts: 8
Loc: Lacey,Washington
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I wont go fishing unless I have OWNER hooks. PERIOD!! If I run out it's time to go home.
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#110004 - 03/25/01 05:51 PM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/19/01
Posts: 106
Loc: Rochester WA
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Riverswild, CAll the 800 number and they'll send a catalog right to you. Hagens is one of the cheapest I've found not only for hooks but also for swivels, beads, jig makeing supplies, etc. Good luck.
[This message has been edited by Ihookum (edited 03-25-2001).]
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