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#118805 - 08/08/01 02:32 PM Sekiu Without Bait?
seadeep Offline
Smolt

Registered: 04/13/99
Posts: 93
Loc: Mukilteo, WA
Sounds like there are plenty of fish out in the Strait. With that many fish, I'm thinking about leaving the bait at home, but what would you suggest using instead?

Is anyone using Coyote spoons on flashers? If so, what size and color would you recommend? Leader length?

I'm assuming the standard green hoochie off a flasher is getting some fish too. Any thoughts there?

Regarding surface flies, are folks running these just back in the boat wash? Any weight, or literally skimming the surface?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

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#118806 - 08/08/01 02:50 PM Re: Sekiu Without Bait?
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Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/18/00
Posts: 187
Loc: Seattle, WA, USA
I would just trailer your boat a little bit more west to Neah Bay. I've always had really good luck in August out there with the coho fly trolled right on the surface at the tail of the prop wash.

Make sure you use sticky sharp vision hooks. I always use about a 8 FT leader of any pound test you want. I always go light out there, maybe 8lb test. Try a noodle rod or a fly rod, its a blast. Then once your leader is tied up slide a coho fly on that Kent suggest to you at TEDS sportings goods off of highway 99 by the lynnwood mall.

Then once your ready to go loosen your drap up and get your boat going so that your moving at a good clip. 8-10mph. Almost up on a plane for most boats. Next let some line out till you reach the tail of your prop wash. Then look on the surface for fish chasing bait. Go to where the fish are and get ready for some serious action!

Last time we went we brought 26 Coho to the boat, and hooked alot more! We were only out for 3 hours. Brings a smile to my face and makes my arms sore just thinking about it!

I'll be headed out to Neah Bay this weekend, so keep an eye peeled for a 19ft alumaweld with two guys nailing cohos on it.


Why use bait when you can't even get a flasher/hoochie combo past 15 ft on your rigger without getting a coho on out there on the west side of the straight this time of year.


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#118807 - 08/08/01 03:07 PM Re: Sekiu Without Bait?
jeff'e'd Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/10/00
Posts: 948
Loc: Snohomish, WA USA
I just got back from Neah Bay. My partner fished coyote spoons off of a cresent sinker and did ok on pinks with some silvers. I fished a downrigger with a hotspot and green squid with a hearing teaser. I'm not sure which set-up worked better, I can tell you that a king took mine down 60'. My partner also fished a fly on the surface and didn't get any bites.

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#118808 - 08/08/01 03:11 PM Re: Sekiu Without Bait?
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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
We did well casting and retreiving Pt. Wilson darts [white 1 to 2 1/4 oz.] and Megabaits[if you can find them. We also did well jigging the same. Just make sure to change out the trebles for singles.
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#118809 - 08/09/01 12:04 PM Re: Sekiu Without Bait?
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
All of your choices have worked well for me. Also remember to bring some buzzbombs in white/pink or white/blue. 3oz. size. If you get blown off of the straight, you can cast from shore between the Coho resort and Olson's for silvers. Andy
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#118810 - 08/09/01 02:13 PM Re: Sekiu Without Bait?
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Returning Adult

Registered: 03/30/01
Posts: 444
Loc: Blyn, WA
I've fished the area between Sekui and Pillar Point a few weekends this year, and I've never used bait... you don't need it, maybe you'd catch a few more fish, but I don't think it's worth the trouble or expense$$$.

I've had weddings and other stuff going on the past couple of weekends, so the last time I was there was the weekend of the July 21st, we fished 7pm to 10pm on Friday and 4am to 12noon on Saturday, we had five limits of silvers in the boat by 10am on Saturday, then went bottomfishing. Totals for those two days were 78 salmon on, we lost 30 of them (see comment later on), landed 48 of them, released 35 of those, kept 13 clipped coho total, they were all between 4 and 8lbs. While we were jigging for bottomfish, we caught & released 6 nice lingcod, and kept a couple of greenling and sea bass.

All the bait I've seen in the water there has been skinny and really small, like 3" long, so I've mostly used Silver Horde Coho Killer spoons, in green/glo, spatterback green/glo, army truck, and purple/black/silver plated.

I've also used the 3" Silver Horde Kingfisher spoons, as well as Coyote spoons, in the same colors as the coho killers. I've used mini hootchies (2" long) in glow and spatter back green/glo, on large green hotspot flashers, about 48" of 60lb leader. I've used Grandslam Bucktail flies in candlefish pattern, both the green and the blue colors. The moral of the story is: ALL OF THIS STUFF WORKS GREAT. If I were to pick one lure, I'd pick the Coho Killers. (if the bait there is still the same)

When I first started fishing there, I was using flashers, running hootchies, spoons, and flies, but I found that the fishing was so good (easy) that I switched to no flashers, and just spoons clipped on my mainline, and run off the downriggers. We caught just as many fish. We were fishing mainly in the top 45 feet of water. We were running two downriggers, and sometimes my friend was tossing a blue & white buzzbomb straight in back of the boat, and jigging it... that caught lots of fish, too. He also tried a letting a Coho Killer spoon out, no weight, just trolling it on the surface, and that caught a bunch of fish, too. He had 14 fish himself on Saturday.

I don't really like running any sort of double-hook setup in an area where you are required to release some fish, especially if they are coho. So for me, that means no hootchies, no bucktails, unless I were to retie them. Coho tend to get wrapped up in the line and hook themselves in the eye or the top of the head with the second hook, especially if you are using flashers. It's my belief that the mortality rate is higher when using two hooks. Also, when you're using just a spoon, you can release the fish a little easier, I keep a couple of sticks on the boat, they are just little dowels with a hook screwed in one end, I just bring the fish alongside the boat, check the fin while it's still in the water, and use the stick to tug the hook out if I need to release it. Granted, you lose a lot of fish at the side of the boat when they thrash and throw the hook (we lost about 27 this way), but it's probably the best way we have yet of releasing fish, as we never handle them with our hands.

Back to your question... if you're going to use Coyotes on flashers, try a 60" to 72" leader, light test, you don't want the line to be stiff since the spoons have action of their own, you're not trying to impart action from the flasher like you would with a hootchie (hence the reason I use 60lb test on hootchies). You can run hootchies if you want, set them up like I said above. With flies, it doesn't seem to matter, if the fish are there like they were two weeks ago, you'll catch fish whatever way you rig them... but I think you'll find that fishing no flashers on light gear, and skimming the surface or clipping to a downrigger as deep as 50ft down will be the most fun.

Good luck, let us know how you do. I'm going to try to get out there Sunday.

-N.
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