#137628 - 01/28/02 02:45 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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The Renegade White Man
Registered: 02/16/00
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Loc: The Coast or the Keys !!!
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Hey Guys, I will try and give you the rundown as best as possible. 1. we are a small company 2. we are constantly trying to improve our quality control, but we have a small staff of wharehouse people and don't catch everything. 3. we are not manufactured by the company someone mentioned above. 4.we are very accessable and if you get some bad product I will be more than happy to replace it for you and always try to handle all these type of problems myself. 5.We are constantly adding new products and everytime we do so it takes some time to work out the bugs and it also takes time away from looking over the stuff we already have. 6. we will be adding fly hooks soon. 7. All your ideas and suggestions are appreciated wether they are good ,bad or indifferent. 8. Thankyou for your continuing support of Vision hooks and Tackle!!!!!11 peace Superfly
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#137629 - 01/28/02 03:23 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Spawner
Registered: 05/09/00
Posts: 956
Loc: Osprey Acres /Olympja
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I've been fishing Visions way before I ever met Joe and "Kid" I believe they are chemically sharpened. My only deal with them is hook sizes,but that was an easy one. If I get a bad one I just take me back,they aren't the only ones,They have and will continue to improve......I mean come on what do you expect....they have Justin for a field rep ......the only way to track him down is head to the river,he's there...Os
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#137630 - 01/28/02 05:22 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Parr
Registered: 05/24/01
Posts: 66
Loc: Portland
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OK Inspector Fishalot, I wanna see 'em, then you can inspect my 1000 vision #4's. When was the last time you caught anything anyway, or what month? I don't know why you even use hooks anyway
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#137631 - 01/28/02 05:59 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Spawner
Registered: 10/29/01
Posts: 561
Loc: Kenmore, WA
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i think if you buy hooks in a smaller quantity you more likley to get better quality hooks tyler
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#137632 - 01/29/02 12:04 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Spawner
Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 845
Loc: Satsop
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I really like visions, although I have used only their 2/0 for eggs - they are sharp enough, although I always check each one and almost always touch every hook I have ever tried up with a needle file - even gamis. I like the hardness of visions - the points hold up well to being dragged over rocks better than the competition. I have not yet seen any quality problems but I have only looked at 50 or so. If I find any bad ones it's comforting to know that if I felt like it I could return them. Can't think of another hook manufacturer who has offered that. And so far, 2 hooked on visions and 2 to the bank (oops, now that I said that the streak will be over big time )
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#137634 - 01/29/02 05:17 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Returning Adult
Registered: 11/20/01
Posts: 397
Loc: Auburn
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OWNERS, except for the price best hook that I've run across.
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#137635 - 01/29/02 10:01 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Returning Adult
Registered: 10/25/00
Posts: 327
Loc: OlyWa
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I haven't had any trouble with the hooks, but today I used their pink worm rig and after three casts the worm started to fall apart.....!?!?!?
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#137636 - 01/29/02 11:37 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Fry
Registered: 12/28/01
Posts: 26
Loc: on a secret river that nobody...
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hey riverswild, there a small company, they got small warehouse staff, toys r ua ran out of bug maker goo, just send back the pink goo for a complete refund. are those Korean worms??
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#137637 - 01/30/02 02:45 AM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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The Renegade White Man
Registered: 02/16/00
Posts: 2424
Loc: The Coast or the Keys !!!
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Worms are from Canada, it is funny though, the asians want to buy worms from us to ship over there. Also very strange about the worm coming off, I have fished a worm all day and not had it come off, even with the hooking and landing of a number of fish. But you know those canadians, might have been mixing the worm mix with beer instead of catalyst. Peace Superfly
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#137638 - 01/30/02 06:04 AM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Returning Adult
Registered: 10/25/00
Posts: 327
Loc: OlyWa
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The worm didn't "come off", it split in half.
PS The hook was very sharp!
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#137639 - 01/30/02 09:58 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Fry
Registered: 12/28/01
Posts: 26
Loc: on a secret river that nobody...
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canadian worms EH!, sell overseas Eh!.sounds like a good deal for the whole world. hope they don't think of them as a delicasea like chum eggs. well all be in trouble.
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#137641 - 01/31/02 12:39 AM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Anonymous
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Geez...draggin anyones worm thru hangups will cause them to fall apart. I won't name the brand but they are nice looking in action from another nw company and they go to shait after a couple of casts also...especially when draggin them thru the crap. Haven't had a problem with the Visions. gooose
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#137642 - 01/31/02 07:23 AM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Returning Adult
Registered: 03/12/01
Posts: 440
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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i dont know of any business where a customer will accept a salesmans excuse of "bad product just happens, theres nothing we can do about it, it cant be helped". that seems pretty extreme. I'll have to remember this when making those airplane parts at work Granted, we're not talking plane parts here, but I've been involved in mfg for 8 years now. You want to catch these problems right away before you chase off customers to the next guy down the road that is. If you see you machine is spittin out crap you shut it down, pull all the crap parts off the line and then fix the problem. Have to make sure those junker parts don't sneak out the door.
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#137643 - 01/31/02 09:19 AM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Returning Adult
Registered: 03/24/99
Posts: 383
Loc: Port Orchard Wa Kitsap
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For something non critical (compared to airplane parts). Id rather do my own QA control for the money I save using Vision.
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#137644 - 01/31/02 11:02 AM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Spawner
Registered: 04/18/01
Posts: 861
Loc: Milwaukie, OR
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sinker:
The guys at Vision DO want to catch these problems, and that's why they want to know about them. It's the only way that they're going to find out about it.
Summary: if somehow you do get a sub-standard quality product from Vision, email them and let them know. They'll take care of you. End of story.
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#137645 - 01/31/02 05:28 PM
Re: Vision hook inconsistency
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Egg
Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4
Loc: beaverton,or
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How about their swivels? In the last 5 weeks we have had 3 swivels come apart while fighting fish. We have had no problems with the hooks...
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