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#142198 - 02/23/02 02:20 AM spooling up...
trailrat77 Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/23/01
Posts: 363
Loc: rowers seat
I find myself replacing line quite often. Whether it's from wear, tangles or snags my spool is never as full as I'd like it. Maxima being $8 a shot I started tying new line onto a partial spool and topping it off. I'll usually strip off 60-70 yards of line off and tie new line on with a blood knot. Does anyone else do this and if so have you ever lost a really nice fish because of it?
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#142199 - 02/23/02 02:59 AM Re: spooling up...
ROCKFISH Offline
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Registered: 12/03/01
Posts: 872
Loc: manchester,Wa
I wouldnt do that, ande or mcoy in big spools are the cheapest way to go
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#142200 - 02/23/02 04:43 AM Re: spooling up...
fishkisser99 Offline
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Registered: 12/12/99
Posts: 516
Loc: Eastsound, WA, USA
The only potential problems you'll run into are that mono, if left on the spool too long, develops a wicked curl due to memory and in a slack line situation (which is something to be avoided anyway) may cause the line to bunch up...also, old mono backing may develop nicks in it over time--and of course a blood knot can get old on your thumb...

Try filling half of your spool or so with braided dacron backing, the stuff flyfishers use. It's got no memory, lays nicely on the reel, and pays for itself after you swap mono tips a couple of times...plus the knots lay rather flat...er...which only really matters if you're using a baitcaster...just lay enough mono on there so you don't feel the knot when your working line is out. I got tired of replacing whole spools of line but carry an extra spool with me--good for 3 or four respools.

I'm unsure about dacron on a spinning reel, though...

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#142201 - 02/23/02 08:38 AM Re: spooling up...
ltlCLEO Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 06/15/01
Posts: 1119
Loc: brownsville wa.
I have done it for years and never even had a fish get to the blood knot.

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#142202 - 02/23/02 09:32 AM Re: spooling up...
ONTHESAUK Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/03/01
Posts: 410
Loc: Mount Vernon, WA
Have gone through the same process both ways this Winter, half the line and a blood knot or replacing the whole spool. Finally came to the conclusion that izorline at about six bucks a spool will get me three refills. For all the effort I'm expending, just don't want to have to worry about it. Next step I guess will be a bulk spool. Any suggestions as to where to buy?
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#142203 - 02/23/02 11:36 AM Re: spooling up...
steeliematt Offline
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Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 70
I use Maxima Crystal Ivory for my main line, Alittle softer then Ultra green But when I called and asked the company about it they said it had the same break strength as Ultra green, Same abrasion resistance as Ultra green, But was put out in that bulk spool of 1100yrds to compete with the Andes of the world, And at the price of 8.00 bucks a spool for 1100yds I change mine very often, Run 12lb main and 10lb Ultra Green leader and the leader gives up first. Very satisfied...

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#142204 - 02/23/02 12:56 PM Re: spooling up...
HBP Offline
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Registered: 01/07/02
Posts: 941
Loc: Everett,Wa
That is a good way to lose the fish of a lifetime, would'nt it suck to lose a 25lb steelie cause the knot broke! Cabela's sells maxima in 3300yd service spools, 10 or 12lb test for $51.99 thats about 1/4 the price of the filler spools. I have been working on my spool for a couple yrs, I keep it in a cool dark place,and have found it to be as strong as new.
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#142205 - 02/23/02 12:59 PM Re: spooling up...
jon Offline
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Registered: 04/08/01
Posts: 137
Loc: auburn, wa
I have been using a blood knot to join old line with new line for the past 3 years. I have never had a fish yet take me down to the knot. But I go more than half to maybe three quarters down into the spool before I make the connection. I fly fish a lot too. And I have that blood knot tested everytime I get a fish on. And I seldom had that knot break on either one of Yakima's finest or on an occasional Steelhead. When I have fish break off it's becuase of "ME" and not the knot or the line. I also own several reels. Some of these reels only get used once or twice a season and sometimes not at all. I keep the line of them unchanged because of the little use they get. Some of that line is more than 2 years old and maybe even 3. Use common sense and if you think the line is abused or if you don't have confidence in it then change it. But keep in mind that those who are in the tackle business would love to convince you and me that we need to go out and buy a new spool of line at least once a year if not twice. Let's see, $8.00 to $16.00 a fishermen a year times 1,000,000 fishermen around the U.S. is . . . Well, you do the math. And don't be afraid of using a blood knot.

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#142206 - 02/23/02 12:59 PM Re: spooling up...
Fish Stalker Offline
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Registered: 12/14/00
Posts: 1236
Loc: S.W. Washington
I cant seem to find that Ivory Cristal Maxima Line,can someone give me a good place to call....think I will be ordering a few spools.

thanks,
wigle

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#142207 - 02/23/02 01:06 PM Re: spooling up...
Huntar Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/23/99
Posts: 400
Loc: Yakima, WA
Try Sufix Supreme line. It is every bit as good as Maxima (I think it is better) and you can buy it at the E-Angler website for 6.99 plus shipping for a 1/4 lb. spool (that is about a thousand yards).

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#142208 - 02/23/02 01:10 PM Re: spooling up...
HBP Offline
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Registered: 01/07/02
Posts: 941
Loc: Everett,Wa
Pinkwigly, the only place I know that sells the crystal ivory is G.I.Joes, the closest one to you is Lynnwood. I think I've seen it at Jerry's surplus in N.Everett, and Isn't there a jerry's in Mt.Vernon or Burlington.
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#142209 - 02/23/02 01:17 PM Re: spooling up...
Jigman Offline
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Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 577
Loc: Seattle
Outdoor Emporium in Seattle carries Crystal ivory in bulk spools. I usually fill my spools without any backing, I run Izorline on my spinning reels and Maxima Ultra green on my level winds. During the nate season I'll do some drift fishing (in addition to jig fishing) with heavy line and don't have room for any backing on the reel. I like to 12 pound Izor on my float rods and 20 pound ultra green(15 pound leaders)on my drift rod.
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#142210 - 02/23/02 02:40 PM Re: spooling up...
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Registered: 01/13/00
Posts: 4400
Loc: Hurricane Ridge , Wa.
My fishing buddy went with the Crystal Ivory last year. Its been working for him, so I bought my first 1/4 lb. spool of 12 lb. test. You get 1176 yards for $6.99, way cheaper than ultragreen, unless you go the service spool route. I'm using it as a low cost mainline, then using 2 lb. lighter U-green for the leader. Jigman a question.... just spooled my Okuma 30 with the Crystal Ivory, is it too stiff to work on this reel?? I have not made one cast with it yet, had a spool of Izorline in my hand but had no clue as to which one was the best on a spinning reel......... confused
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#142211 - 02/23/02 04:08 PM Re: spooling up...
Jigman Offline
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Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 577
Loc: Seattle
I have yet to try the Crystal Ivory line, but I've heard good things about it. For the cost it's worth a try.
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#142212 - 02/23/02 04:12 PM Re: spooling up...
Fish Jesus Offline
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Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 768
Loc: Tacoma
Spoonman, gave me a review of his thoughts on Crystal Ivory...lets just say that I won't be using it!

FJ...out

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#142213 - 02/23/02 06:36 PM Re: spooling up...
Chromeo Offline
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Registered: 10/29/01
Posts: 561
Loc: Kenmore, WA
Crystal Ivory RULES!!!!!!!!!!! thats all i use and it hasnt let me down yet. my leader always breaks first if im using 2lbs lighter that the main. i like it better than UG for main line. you can get the 1100 yrd soppls at gi joes
Tyler
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#142214 - 02/23/02 06:38 PM Re: spooling up...
Fish Jesus Offline
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Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 768
Loc: Tacoma
Still goin with the old guys theory on the stuff...sorry Tyler.

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#142215 - 02/23/02 07:37 PM Re: spooling up...
JacobF Offline
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Registered: 01/03/01
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I switched to Fireline on my drift rod. It's great.
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#142216 - 02/23/02 08:02 PM Re: spooling up...
chrome/22 Offline
Captain C/22 - Team Stay Up Right!

Registered: 01/13/00
Posts: 4400
Loc: Hurricane Ridge , Wa.
I've got the dark-grey Fireline 8/20 test as my mainline on my big nate/springer stick. Run 15-17 lb. leaders off it, its a bit noisy going thru the guides but tough as nails.... mad mad What test Izorline do you run on your jig rods?
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#142217 - 02/23/02 08:36 PM Re: spooling up...
bob b Offline
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Registered: 06/26/01
Posts: 80
Loc: Eugene,Or.
Sometimes you get what you pay for. Tried Crystal Ivory,would not use again.

Will pay a more and stick with ultra green.

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