#154524 - 07/16/02 02:18 PM
Re: Washington Trout declares war on recreational fishing
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#154526 - 07/16/02 05:34 PM
Re: Washington Trout declares war on recreational fishing
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Joe, Justin did stop by the last meeting, but only stayed for a minute because he was on his way to a B.A.S.S. meeting to try and sell some Vision bass hooks. He asked me about the next meeting, which isn't until next month, as we don't have a July meeting. Go to http://www.wildsteelheadcoalition.com to see the mission statement, etc., for the Wild Steelhead Coalition. If you can't make it up for a meeting, maybe Justin can give you the full report. Make sure he brings lots of hooks and swivels!! Fish on... Todd.
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#154527 - 07/16/02 10:15 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/23/00
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Loc: vancouver WA USA
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Jerry Who exactly was I stereotyping? I was stereotyping anglers who fish for hatchery chinook in Puget Sound.. I would also say it was not a negative stereotype simply that the motivation of chinook fishermen in my experience is much different than say steelhead fishermen. In fact based on my observations of chinook fishermen in general (fall chinook anyway) i'd say that at least 50% never fish except when there are a lot of fish around that they can kill. That makes them meathunters. There is nothing wrong with that. However I do not want to sacrifice our wild fish so that people can harvest hatchery fish. That is exactly what we are doing!!
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#154528 - 07/16/02 10:24 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/25/01
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Loc: Marysville
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Robert Allen - I'm sure that we both agree that: 1)recovery of wild fish is dependent on placing their needs first and 2) there is much that needs to be addressed in the hatchey arena and the interaction of hatchery fish with wild fish.
However I have to disagree that eliminating hatchery programs is the sure way to recovery. There at less two examples in Puget Sound where hatchery steelhead programs have been eliminated and a decade ort more later the wild fish numbers are no better; The Nisqually and Cedar. The first step towards successful recovery of wild stocks is having healthy rivers. Without productive habitats no fish have a chance. Destroyed habitat is not easily restored with recovery times measured in life-times or more.
There has been much bantering about lately regarding the best science. However the refutable science is that salmonids need water!!
Tight lines Smalma
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#154529 - 07/16/02 11:52 PM
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Thanks for the spelling correction Jerry! Uhh RA3 I fish for chinook when I'm fishing for chinook, I also fish for steelhead when I fish for steelhead, I also fish for coho when I fish for coho, I also fish for pinks when I fish for pinks, I also fish for chum when I fish for chum, I also...dang that could go on forever! Well one more...I also fish for all of the above at the same time whenever they are present and it is legal to do so. What does that make me...hey I'm thick skinned...call it like you see it? Please let it happen Jerry this once? After that I really do promise to be a good little bird! Hey I'm serious !
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#154531 - 07/22/02 09:53 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/01/00
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Loc: Skagit Valley
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Why are "wild fish" made of meat?
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#154532 - 07/23/02 12:41 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/01/00
Posts: 624
Loc: Skagit Valley
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For more information about the hatchery reform efforts check the following link: HATCHERY REFORM IN PUGET SOUND & COASTAL WASHINGTON Sometimes the wheels of change turn slower than we would like but considering the management mistakes made in the past it seems prudent to do things right this time around. Does anyone have any positive suggestions what we as a user group can do to facilitate the reform process?
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#154533 - 07/23/02 12:56 AM
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Volunteer to help! Thanks Plunker!
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