snit,

With the de-hooking device there is no need to "Corral or net the fish" and certainly no need to pry the fishes mouth open? (I've never seen a salmon that could attempt to breath with it's mouth clamped shut) Just slide the cuphook down the line, give a little jerk, and the barbless hook pops right out! WDFW website has descriptions of the de-hooker and how to effectively use it. Hey, why not do everything we can to help a "wild" fish survive?

Give the Visions a shot. They seem to work excellent for me in the salt..and in the rivers..and in the lakes.

Hi:

Boy something is really wrong here.........Mustad 93352, and you are having problems bending, wow, you must be using very heavy leaders and line.....need to get real....start having fun instead of being a "meat fishererson", go with light rods and lines and leaders. A 4/0 Mustad will take lot's of pressure....NEVER had any problems with them........

Have a good day!!!!!

"The worse day sport fishing, is still better than better than the best day working!

Drifter WA, as I said before, hook-92553 and line-25lb maxima. I don't know what hook number you're using but maybe I should try it???? If you would read my question I was after opinions on other 4/0 hooks. As for your comment about "getting real", I didn't ask your opinion about how to land a salmon (19 out of 20 in the last 6 days) in the Columbia. The kings that I'm catching just tear up the bait and 100 yard runs in fast current are very common. I like to catch fish- not loose them, and my Mustads are only lasting for one fight. So take your noodle rod, #4 hook, and 8lb stren and enjoy the fight!!! Thanks for the opinions from the other guys!!! I'll try the visions and owners.

Drifter WA, as I said before, hook-92553 and line-25lb maxima. I don't know what hook number you're using but maybe I should try it???? If you would read my question I was after opinions on other 4/0 hooks. As for your comment about "getting real", I didn't ask your opinion about how to land a salmon (19 out of 20 in the last 6 days) in the Columbia. The kings that I'm catching just tear up the bait and 100 yard runs in fast current are very common. I like to catch fish- not loose them, and my Mustads are only lasting for one fight. So take your noodle rod, #4 hook, and 8lb stren and enjoy the fight!!! Thanks for the opinions from the other guys!!! I'll try the visions and owners.

snit do you not know how to use a computer?, STOP POSTING THE SAME FREAKIN MESSAGE TWICE OR ELSE!

Sorry about the dupes'. I just hit "back" and then I get "reload" and it re-posts. Yes, I do know how to "use" a computer but the recent replies makes me want to "use" it elsewhere. Go catch something and chill out!!!

Snit...If you think Gammies are to much,you won't like the Owners either,they cost even more! They are a very sharp hook,but the cheapest I've found em' was $17.99 for 40 hooks,that's $.45 ea and that was in 3/0.

The Vision's are a good hook for the money. The problem I have with them is the bigger the hook,2/0 or bigger the worse the eye looks ( ragged, uneven edges )that look like they'll fray your line. I haven't seen every box of Vision's,but the 8-10 boxes I opened were all the same. Even if you throw away half the hooks in the box,there still cheaper than Gammies or Owners.

You'll have to forgive some of the other posts...everyone here is usually in a better mood. It's funny...with all the fishing opportunities available right now,you'd think they'd be in a better mood.

Or else what? You'll get your panties in a bunch?

Snit:

Enjoy your fishing, doesn't matter if you use Vision, Gammies, Owner, Mustad, Eagle Claw or some other brand, just have a tough time believing that 4/0 are "breaking" with 25# line.

Don't see any of the major hook brands going out of business........

"Worse day sport fishing, STILL better than the best day working"

FishinSinsation , only 4 people on this board are authorized to use the term "or else " and glad to say your NOT one of them so chill out a little. Snit--- I apoligize for some of the foolishness.

HBP and Jerry G. thanks for the "help" 15 or 20 years ago I had a box of a 100 Mustads 92553's with ragged eyes. My uncle (the cheapest guy ever) had some clear glue that we placed on the eyes. After it dried (very quickly) we then poked a toothpick through the eye to clean it out and I didn't have a problem with those hooks after that. I think that my time is worth more now, so I doubt that I will apply this process to the Vision hooks, but I'd like to try them anyways. For the record, I never said that I was "breaking" 4/0's, they were bending!!! Here's to BIG kings!!!!

id second the visions, i have only used #2 hooks, they are sharp and when i set the hook i have never lost a fish to a vision hook, only the breaking of "gamakatsu line i was using" that stuff jus cant hold up under no conditions..

I lost a lot of Springer hookups to the Owner cutting points on the Wind (not salt I know). As soon as a switched back to Gammies, I landed the last 8 I hooked. I think the Owner cutters are great when you can get them in the jaw, but it cuts through any soft tissues (tounge, lips, etc...). Just my $0.02...

Wow! I didn't know that springers even had lips! :p

Unfortunately, on the Wind river, I've seen probably all brands of hooks tear through soft tissue. (i.e. the fish's ass, belly, back etc...)

wow!! i didnt even know springers had a ass..

Gawldarn! You mean that little hole ain't the bung?

Ok, that was funny.

Suck up the costs and stick with the quality of gammies or owner. Hope this helps!

For salmon and big baits, I've went strictly to VMC "straight point" salmon-steelhead hooks, and found a considerable difference in hook-up ratios. With every other hook the point curves inward toward the bait- typical curved hook style. When you have a big chunk of herring or eggs, this means the hook point is lying right down on the bait. We all want fish that just chomp right down on the bait, crushing the hook and submerging the hook point itself. Unfortunately, they usually just pick it up first and move with it. A straight point hook is right there out of the bait and already stuck into some flesh and a good hook set finishes the job.

I only use gammies and owners for all of my jigs, spinners, drift flies, and nonbaited lures, but the vmc's make me feel more confident when I'm bait fishing, and they are cheaper, too.