#158353 - 08/27/02 04:26 PM
 
Help?? what am i doing wrong?
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Eyed Egg
 
 
Registered:  08/18/02
 
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I am using an 8' spin cast rod and reel set up. I usually use about 20” – 30” leader and a slinky weight about 2-4” long. I tie on a three way swivel one side connected to my line; the other holds the weight and the other my leader. I use a #4 or #2 hook. I have been using roe I bought at GI Joes. I put the roe into nickel size sacs. I have received some good bites but no fish. I am not sure how a steelhead bites. Can anyone help me? Plus I am fishing from the shore of the Lewis. Does anyone have any tips for me? Thank you 
 
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#158354 - 08/27/02 04:50 PM
 
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Juvenille at Sea
 
 
Registered:  05/08/01
 
Posts: 170
 
Loc:  Everett, WA.
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LadyJ, Sounds like you're on target with the set-up. One question, how are you attaching the roe sac?  If I may suggest, try putting the roe-sac above the hook for better hook-ups. The way to do this is to run your leader right through the sac with a large needle before you attach it to the swivel. To keep the roe-sac from sliding down over the hook eye, use a small corkey or medium sized bead between them.  This set-up allows you to use the bait loop for a small piece of yarn, which will also help keep those biters from sliping the hook. Good luck!     
 
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#158355 - 08/27/02 05:16 PM
 
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Returning Adult
 
 
Registered:  08/26/02
 
Posts: 360
 
Loc:  "the middle kingdom" aka Cheha... 
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1. You should feel your weight hitting the bottom as it goes down stream but, it shouldn't be stopping & you should NOT have to be "popping" it off the bottom to keep it moving, the river should be doing the work
  2. leader length is controversial issue but, i believe the clearer & slower the water, the longer the leader, personally, I wouldn't use a leader shorter than 4' to 5'
  3. put an orange or pink or white (glow ball), the smallest size you can get & use a # 2 hook w/ eggs or green (chartruese) yarn w/shrimp oil
  4. if you are drifting correctly, i.e. your weight is peep peep peeping along on the bottom without your help, you will know after several drifts what a bite is & you will know what to do 
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#158357 - 08/28/02 04:31 AM
 
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Spawner
 
 
Registered:  12/05/00
 
Posts: 553
 
Loc:  Everett, Wa, USA
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As far as leader legnth goes I am with Mad Max in that I prefer a longish leader.  Keep in mind that when the fish picks up your bait you aren't going to feel him until the lead drifts by and the line tightens up.  So I would reccomend that you use as short a leader as the conditions will allow for.  
  As far as the bite goes.  I would say that with most of the fish that I catch all I ever feel is the weight come off the bottom, or the line stop.  If you feel that rip lips!!!
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#158358 - 08/28/02 09:04 AM
 
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Returning Adult
 
 
 
Registered:  03/09/99
 
Posts: 454
 
Loc:  TACOMA,WA
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my suggestion would be this.....scrap the drift fishing for now. I think the low flows, super clear water and shy fish make summer is a tough and frustrating time to learn this technique. I would get a few bobbers and jigs and toss those around for awhile. You have a spinning rod and reel, so there is not much cost involved to make a change. When the bobber goes down, set the hook and hold on....this (in my opinion) is a great way to intorduce someone new to the sport of Steelheading 
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#158359 - 08/28/02 03:06 PM
 
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Three Time Spawner
 
 
Registered:  12/29/99
 
Posts: 1604
 
Loc:  Vancouver, Washington
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Jess -  For summer steelhead, use a float/jig combination.  Eggs will work but they can be difficult to use.  Your rig is perfect for jigs.  Tip a pink or white jig with a shrimp or prawn tail and hang it about a foot or two (depending on water depth) under a fixed float.  Drift it through a hole or a tailout and you should get some interest from a steelhead.  It's easy and I've had great success on the Lewis River summer steelhead this year.  Good luck. 
 
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#158361 - 08/28/02 03:16 PM
 
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Returning Adult
 
 
Registered:  08/26/02
 
Posts: 360
 
Loc:  "the middle kingdom" aka Cheha... 
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GOOD POINT, jig & bobber in the summer is the way to go if you have the room, don't be afraid to open your bail & let it run out a ways & do not be afraid to work it in close I've had the best luck not being in the main current but on the egdes of the current, i've found a white head, red body & black tail or all pink jigs work well, also, applying oil (crawdad or shrimp oil) helps a bunch too ... 
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#158362 - 08/28/02 09:28 PM
 
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Parr
 
 
Registered:  11/14/01
 
Posts: 65
 
Loc:  Battle Ground, WA
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Would a jig and bobber work well on the Wind River?  Or would bait on the bottom be better? Thanks 
 
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#158363 - 08/28/02 10:29 PM
 
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Juvenille at Sea
 
 
 
Registered:  01/25/02
 
Posts: 243
 
Loc:  everett
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The float, with either jig or bait is a great way to start, and very successful.(good suggestion) Drift fishing takes some time to learn, but I recommend doing that as well, using good eggs, fresh, does make a difference. Talk with people on the banks that are catching fish, and see what they are using, and ask questions, most will do that if they know you are sincere. If you can afford it, go with a guide, and they are very helpful with info, and teaching tactics, and most have done their share on the bank too, plus you can learn new spots to fish. You are doing the right thing by asking questions!!      Good Luck Woodsy Wayne  
 
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#158364 - 08/28/02 11:09 PM
 
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Juvenille at Sea
 
 
Registered:  01/21/02
 
Posts: 169
 
Loc:  lacey, Wa.
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Last suggestion
    Fresh bait is always good. (Eggs or sandshrimp) I always place them in a small hand carried cooler with ice. The hot days of summer will kill your sandshrimp and make them smell after a few hours. You eggs will begin to ferment. Carring a hand held cooler can be a pain but the rewards can be great. 
 
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#158366 - 08/29/02 02:32 AM
 
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Spawner
 
 
Registered:  04/23/00
 
Posts: 737
 
Loc:  vancouver WA USA
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fishboy  the Wind river is closed to steelhead fishing  so it  would be a very bad place to fish a jig and bobber. Also  north fork steelhead are suckers  for chome spinners and spoons. For learning to drift fish I recommend using a couple 1 inch pieces of "glo-bug "yarn and maybe a corkie and sometimes shrimp oil. the bites feel the same as roe until  the yarn frays and the fish starts headshaking in an attempt of getting it out of his teeth,  with a sharp hook they are pretty easy to hook.  I think another common drift fishing problem  is casting so  far  that  you can't get a timely and effective hookset. Just my opinions  for  what they are  worth 
 
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#158367 - 08/31/02 08:53 PM
 
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Parr
 
 
Registered:  11/14/01
 
Posts: 65
 
Loc:  Battle Ground, WA
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I couldn't find my reg book, so thanks for warning me. 
 
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