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#163091 - 10/23/02 05:58 PM Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Mike C Offline


Registered: 04/05/01
Posts: 1373
Loc: Redmond
OK, DR got a nasty e-mail for talking about a fishng spot on the sound. This should be safe - What is your favorite COMBAT FISHING ZONE and why? No zipper lips here, just the best nonsecret fishng zones you'll admit to sharing with hundreds of other anglers at a time.
I pick: The Oysterhouse Hole in Tillamook. A small slot of water about 200 yards long and 50 yards wide at low tide. Depth 3-7 feet. Cram in 50-75 boats of all types, including big old fiberglass cruisers. Then have everyone trolling quickfish or spinners 10-15 pulls behind their boat. Go in circles for hours and hope to be one of the lucky few to hook into some red hot bright chinook fresh off the salt. Combat fishing at it's finest! laugh
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#163092 - 10/23/02 06:19 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Downriggin Offline
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Registered: 02/28/02
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Loc: Marine Area 13
Gosh... I gotta give up one of those really secret combat spots... Now EVEERRYYYOOONNEEEE
will be there.

Two thumbs up for Blue Creek..

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#163093 - 10/23/02 06:53 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
barnettm Offline
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Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 614
Loc: Maple Valley, Wa.
Might as well get the standby's out of the way first. Mine is Hoodsport. It is fun to wade around out in the saltwater. It is clean smelling, too, contantly refreshed as it is. Nice scenery and big ugly chums to catch (so ugly you feel sorry for them). Just wear a hat when you go, the fly fishers mean business.

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#163094 - 10/23/02 07:13 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Jeffhead Offline
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Registered: 03/27/00
Posts: 531
Loc: Olympia, Washington
Pt. Defiance on a Saturday in August. Just me and 400,000 of my best friends trollin' and moochin' at the same time. Great sport is to troll through the moochers and try not to pick up any of thier gear!! eek Followed closely by the Clay Banks on the Cow!!! Nothin' like boondoggin' with 40 other boats and NOT runnin' into each other!!!
good luck and tight lines, Jeff laugh laugh

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#163095 - 10/23/02 07:17 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
havnfun Offline
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Registered: 07/04/99
Posts: 727
Loc: tacomca,wa,pierce
hoodsport by far love it when people are standing shoulder to shoulder and back to back with the boaters thrown towards shore also.
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#163096 - 10/23/02 07:22 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
trailrat77 Offline
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Registered: 11/23/01
Posts: 350
Loc: rowers seat
I have several. First off for rivers it has to be Blue Creek, both bank and boat. For salt it is Pt. Defiance for sure. I don't think God has ever assembled a mass of pure stupidity as he does down at Pt. D on a Sat. in August. Bouy 10 is a close second though. Pack 4000 boats into a small area, add a splash of river current, a dash of ocean swells, a smidge of wind chop and a liberal amout of beer and you get a great show rolleyes
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#163097 - 10/23/02 07:50 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Easy Limits Offline
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Loc: Nisqually
Most seasonal trout lakes on opening day.
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#163098 - 10/23/02 07:52 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
S W J Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/09/02
Posts: 45
Loc: Bellingham, WA
The cracker derby at reiter, or how 'bout the Vedder right now.

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#163099 - 10/23/02 08:17 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
goforchrome Offline
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Registered: 04/02/01
Posts: 493
Loc: sammamish WA
I second Reiter....
Opening day with a few testosterone-overdosed dudes and it's a
cross etween 5-fish day and pay-per-view Ultimate Fighting Championship!
Honestly, while a few bad apples make the memories, I have fished shoulder to shoulder with some really polite and knowledgeable people.
And there are the fish....
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#163100 - 10/23/02 09:09 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
elmtree69 Offline
Fry

Registered: 02/01/02
Posts: 21
Loc: tacoma
You guy's are all talking big water's.

How about 30-50 fisher's on both banks of a small creek, at high tide it is 25-30 feet across and 6 foot deep.
as the tide goes out, it becomes 15-20 foot across and 3 foot deep, at the deepest.

Now this is Kennedy Creek outside shelton, John's creek is about the same, except it is harder to get to where you can fish, shoulder to shoulder.

You get to know people real well. You learn to be early and save a spot for a freind.

Then just wait for the chum's to come running up the shallows, water spraying over their backs.

Nothing more exciting, just makes the blood pressure raise and warms the soul. laugh laugh laugh
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#163101 - 10/23/02 09:25 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Robert Allen3 Offline
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Registered: 04/23/00
Posts: 737
Loc: vancouver WA USA
Bonneville from the bank for spring chinook.. The only combat fishery i will partake in

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#163102 - 10/23/02 09:53 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Fishon grahn Offline
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Registered: 04/22/02
Posts: 88
Loc: arlington
i would have to say the Samish river in burlington. it is by far the most crowded river ive ever fished. It can be a lot of fun if get in with good group of guys. As in all combat zones it only takes one cracker to make a long day. Reiter would have to be a close second and as far as blue creek i have never fished it so cant really say but it looks too crazy for me.

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#163103 - 10/23/02 10:10 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Sullie Offline
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Registered: 06/26/02
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shipwreck durin a derby, and on the weekends.

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#163104 - 10/23/02 10:21 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Bob Offline

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Registered: 03/05/99
Posts: 6367
Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
Ah, let's head north shall we smile

There is no finer combat zone than the Kenai or Russian Rivers (take your pick) during the height of sockeye season.

Anglers are often stacked 2-3 rows deep in some places fishing over one another's shoulders!

The best thing is, lots of fish and everyone seems to always have one on ... the best spectacle is often watching folks try to net fish for others laugh laugh

Everyone needs to do it once!

Oh no, I gave away a secret spot frown
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#163105 - 10/23/02 11:00 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
BigShark Offline
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Registered: 08/20/01
Posts: 221
Loc: PDX
I vote for Centennial Park there in Soldotna when the reds are in. Two hundred people shoulder to shoulder speaking at least 100 languages and all telling each other what to do or how to get out of the way. Bet you didn't know that the term As.h.le could be said
100 different ways to smiling people who don't have the slightest idea of whats being said to one another.

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#163106 - 10/23/02 11:02 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
ET Offline
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Registered: 11/21/01
Posts: 387
Loc: Tacoma
Lake Washington during Sockeye weekend. If you are going to combat fish, why go out of town! All the people watching and fish too!!

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#163107 - 10/23/02 11:13 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
umrules Offline
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Registered: 12/28/99
Posts: 610
Loc: wa., usa
I'd have to say the Wind River when the Springers are running good. Why is it my favorite??? Because even though there are 500 boats trolling circles on a mile long stretch at the mouth of the river / Columbia (and there is ALWAYS at least one boat trying to zig zag in and out of all of them), if you are trolling herring or an orange mag wart, you are catching fish!
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#163108 - 10/23/02 11:27 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
CedarR Offline
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Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1432
Loc: Olympia, WA
Tokul Creek when the rivers are out, and the fish are in.

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#163109 - 10/23/02 11:30 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
fromcuthroattosteelies Offline
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Registered: 09/08/01
Posts: 456
Loc: olympia
Barrier Dam Springer Fishing in May. A close second, Blue Creek during late June
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#163110 - 10/24/02 12:16 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
icechopper Offline
Fry

Registered: 01/24/02
Posts: 38
Loc: Lacey, Wash.
That is a tough one, I have several that are equally rewarding.
Pacific City Bost ramp in Sept
Blue Creek in December or June and McCalister Creek in late August. It seems that I have added 3 or 4 more just this year alone. rolleyes I just dont expect that it will get any better. rolleyes rolleyes
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#163111 - 10/24/02 01:11 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Sprking31 Offline
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Registered: 04/03/02
Posts: 141
Loc: Auburn Washington
Would have to say, Drano with springs, can usually catch fish and see fish caught. The Fraser when the Sockeye fishery is open, if your line is wet, your hooking fish! laugh

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#163112 - 10/24/02 03:28 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Woodsy Wayne Offline
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Registered: 01/25/02
Posts: 243
Loc: everett
*Will have to vote Reiter 4 sure...opening day!!
*The Edmonds pier when word is out is hot.
*Blue Creek area in general.
*Snohomish river during Humpie season(cracker central)
*anywhere f&h news does a write up/map, is always sure to become a combat zone.
*My favorite one I will leave unsaid, as not too add to the increasing pressure, as it is only open in the winter. wink

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#163113 - 10/24/02 07:58 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
hawk Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 562
Loc: austin, Minnesota, USA
No, No, No, No, No Boys. You all have it wrong.
Bob is very close with the sockeye gig on the Kenai and Russian, but not quite up to our Standards in the Midwest.

Number One combat zone is the Root River in Racine Wisconsin during the King Run. In a 250 yard stretch of river, you'll see 400 guys on both banks, crankin on moldy kings. The slot is about 5 yards wide, and 24 inches deep during heavy flows. Most falls, we are talking max depth of 14 inches, with lots of fish dry backin to get over the fast water. Max width of the river is 15 yards, and it is all just above ankle deep, other than the slot.

Now, go ahead and cram about 5,000 kings (avg weight of 18 pounds, with some up to 30) in to this same 250 yard stretch of water, and you have a real circus. Drones, Snagging (people and fish), Drones, illegal dip netting at night, Drones, 50 different countries well represented, Drones, people walking down the center of the slot chasing kings that have been snagged, landing nets with 7 foot long handles, Drones, fist fights, Drones, Drones, Drones, yelling, kings with mold spots the size of your fist, are just a few of the visual pleasures to be enjoyed. Did I mention that the river was infested with DRONES. Last year a buddy and I had to call 911 and give the Heimlich manuever to a gal who was choking ot death on a sandwich in the parking lot.

I usually do a two day gig for the River Patrol to try and sort out some of the knuckle dragging trolls, and provide them with something to read. Last year, almost $50,000 dollars in fines were handed out on this river during the Salmon run. Three drones from Chicago were popped with over 150 kings in the back of their truck when they netted them at night. The warden said that the truck springs were close to breaking due to the fish in the back of the truck.

The only other spectacle that is close, would be the Salmon Run at Tippy Dam on the Manistee River in Michigan. Alot of the same things as the Root, but all long distance casting in to big water.

No matter where it is, it seems like the Salmon bring out the worst of the worst in people. It's virtually impossible for most people to pass up an opportunity to catch,net,line,snag, the biggest fish of their life. Peace.

Hey Bob, is there any way to dig up the drone thread from three years ago? It might help the guys understand what they are.
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#163114 - 10/24/02 09:17 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Pmartin Offline
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Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 769
I see that nobody has mentioned Fortson eek eek The midnight opening at Fortson has to be experinced once in everyones life to really know what combat fishing is all about. The river is almost 20 ft wide with guys literally touching elbows on both sides. People are so close you smeel their breath! frown frown It's great at night cause you can see everyone's glowball's flying through the air and getting tangled up with each other. It's funnier than hell to see all these floats with glow sticks going down the riv and about 10 at any given time hangin about 8ft over the middle of the riv tangled with a guy on the other side....

It's classic! Grab a half rack and head on up for the show!!!
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#163115 - 10/24/02 11:07 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
BillyBob Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 09/28/00
Posts: 238
Loc: Kapowsin, Wa
The Carbon River at the mouth of Voight Creek on opening week definitely qualifies to be on this list. Not only is it combat fishing at its finest, but you get to start your fishing experience doing some "Combat Parking". I personally do not partake in the festivities, but I drive past the place where everyone parks, and on opening day, you can expect to walk a mile down the Hwy just to get to the trailhead.

I like to say that opening day on the Carbon is like having the Circus and the Zoo in town on the same day.
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#163116 - 10/24/02 11:26 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
BERKLEY BOY75 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 672
Loc: AUBURN
i personally like to head to the carbon, to get my fill of corkies from all the combat fishing, i avg. about 30-40 a day when i go..question, does anyone on this board have a old telescopic pole they wouldnt mind getting rid of? about 6-7 feet or longer..

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#163117 - 10/24/02 11:40 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Mooch Offline
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Registered: 12/24/01
Posts: 1877
Loc: Kingston, WA
Fish attract crowds and fish make people nuts.
I have to admit: been there, done it. Heck, it's a long walk into Blue Cr., just like the drive to Hoodsport, might as well toss a line while I'm there. And heck the Sno's blown might as well fish Tokul instead cleaning out the gutters. But I was never prepared for what I saw at the mouth of the Russian River in Alaska many years ago. Visualizing a wilderness experience on my first trip to Alaska I headed to the Kenai and stopped at the Russian at around 10pm. Pulling off the remote and beautiful Kenai hwy into a parking lot that was bigger and fuller than the Puyallup Fair. When I finally got to the river I could not believe my eyes. A packed line of fisherman on the far side extending as far as the eye could see. We're talking over a mile. A loaded foot ferry was crossing the Kenai non stop. When I got over I found entire families tag team fishing in one spot and having picnics and sleepovers on bank behind them. And to top it off I learned to my utter amazement, that for a number of years later entire families were flying over from places like Japan to exclusively fish this stretch for reds to take back home. That's a serious fish magnet..... I mean like Close Encounters of the Fish Kind! It was a freek show. You might see me again at Blue Cr, Pt. Defiance, Bonneville, Buoy 10, Palmer, Reiter, Icicle, Tokul, any trout opener, and even Hoodsport, maybe. The Russian? No "freeking", and I mean "freeking", way.
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#163118 - 10/24/02 11:42 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Hohwaiian Offline
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Registered: 07/06/99
Posts: 470
Loc: Seattle, Washington, US
Banking it - Russian River. I once hooked a dandy red and followed it downriver as it took off in heavy current. During the 100 yds it took me to land it I ducked nearly 300 poles. I love showing friends scenic photos of "the line" ; hundreds of people lined up a$$ to a$$ all fishing with 3 feet of line dangling from their rodtip.

Boating it - Mouth of the Columbia during the 2nd or 3rd week of Aug. The scene below the Astoria Bridge is an incredible sight to behold. The same goes for the view from the Cape Disapointment Lighthouse.

Pier - Seacrest. During good
chinook runs, the space-between-angler ratio is measured in inches. Very amusing at times. Don't bother showing up if you can't cast straight out.

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#163119 - 10/24/02 12:13 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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These day's it seems I create a combat fishing zone every time I land a fish.
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#163121 - 10/24/02 04:22 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Lifeisgreat Offline
Parr

Registered: 10/04/00
Posts: 58
Loc: Snohomish
How about some of the old spots when you were a kid, Like snagging/jigging smelt @ LaConner 35yrs ago. Back then it was just a few buildings, one dock you could fish off of and a hoard of people there for the annual derby.
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#163122 - 10/24/02 06:31 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Mike C Offline


Registered: 04/05/01
Posts: 1373
Loc: Redmond
Wow, what a great batch of combat stories. But please someone tell me, what is a "drone"? Having come from Wisconsin Hawk's story had me grinning the most. I've never been there but can just imagine what it's like. When I was in high school I worked in a village meat market. We used to smoke salmon and carp in our smokehouse. I loved pulling the fish out to break off a corner piece to check if it was done. laugh
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#163123 - 10/24/02 06:48 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
umrules Offline
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Registered: 12/28/99
Posts: 610
Loc: wa., usa
Hey Aunty M
How about those 1:00 in the afternoon negative tides on those shrimpin' days over at misery point? Crack a few cold ones, kick back and relax and enjoy the show! Run a pool to see who is the first to call a tow truck when the tide starts coming back in. In fact I htink it was two years ago that the first tow truck needed a tow truck because he got out to far. What a show!!
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#163124 - 10/24/02 06:57 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
KerryS Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 07/24/01
Posts: 149
Loc: Everett, WA
I have seen fortson both at night and with the fly crackers. I have seen the Samish king snag fest. I have seen the mouth of the Columbia and the Willamette and one other river in Oregun which the name escapes me now. I have been to the Russian with fishermen as far as the eye can see and the Skagit during humpy mania. But Hawk's drone story takes the cake.

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#163125 - 10/24/02 07:50 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
4Salt Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
Substitute the moldy kings in Hawk's story with bright silvers, and that baby's got Quilcene (killscene) written all over it! Right gooose! wink :p laugh
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#163126 - 10/24/02 10:07 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
bank walker Offline
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Registered: 12/26/99
Posts: 745
Rieter- No joke... THis summer i saw a float coming down from the ponds that was the size of a softball! Its always funny to see what the Seattle boys will use from time to time rolleyes

Snohomish - People come out of the wood works for scab pinks. Can be downright embarrasing

Samish - mud, and muck...god bless the "ditch"

3 north sound picks....
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#163127 - 10/24/02 11:28 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Buck Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 234
Loc: Tumwater Wa
My first vote wuld go for blue creek, and my second would be where icechopper took me on the wind for springers. There are definately a few others, but I have stayed away from them for a while.
Buck

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#163129 - 10/25/02 12:04 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
chumsalmon Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 06/22/01
Posts: 194
Loc: Bellingham
here is one not to forget,
whatcom creek, ya know the one that caught on fire a couple of years ago. from now until the end of chum season. you will see all types, young and old. Fist fights, snagging, yelling. my favorite story from a couple of years ago was someone attacked another angler with pair of needelnose pliars. Kind of fun to go down there at lunch time and watch the crowd. what a sight!

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#163130 - 10/25/02 03:19 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
Gene Offline
Egg

Registered: 10/25/02
Posts: 1
Loc: Ft. Lewis
New guy here, but I have fished most of these rivers where its combat fishing and nothing compares to the Russian river when the REDs are in. I have seen it with fisherman on both banks sholder to sholder with 2 rows of fisherman facing them from the middle of the river! But every one was catching fish!

Fish on
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#163131 - 10/26/02 11:54 AM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
bentpole Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 10/29/01
Posts: 133
what about oak park where all the tweekers go, that place is alot of fun to watch but don't get in there way

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#163132 - 10/27/02 01:31 PM Re: Favorite Combat Fishing Zone!
flickyourjig Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 01/13/01
Posts: 133
Loc: Saxon,wa.
Would have to say it's a tossup between the samish and the S.F. of the sack right now.
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