i wouldnt be suprised at all if he is dead......there is no limit to the depths that this administration will sink to......they are a sickening smear on this country

Let me put on my foil hat and channel Rmatha for the answer.

Vhawk,
You say Osama is dead and the tape that came out the other day was fake. We know that every decison the Bush administration makes is for domestic political purposes. So if Osama is dead, what's the domestic political advantage to the Bu****es of concealing that info and faking tapes?

So GW can justify domestic spying. He can then spy on Vinny and find out where the salmon are pooling what glasses to wear and what holes to fish next fall.

Suckersnagger,

The answer to your question is in the first post of this thread. By having the 'boogeyman' running around alive, the American people give Bush free reign to do whatever he feels he needs to, in order to "Protect the American People". But if Bin Laden is dead then more Americans might start to wonder "WTF is this guy doing?"

There are very good reasons from an intelligence and counterterrorism viewpoint that can be made to not publish Bin Ladens death. I think it is for those reasons that his death continues to be kept secret. If there were no reasons other then political, it would seriously piss off the career spooks. Bush is stupid, but is he stupid enough to really piss off the career CIA guys?


JLH,

Very interesting link. I also thought that the content of the last tape sounded nothing like the crap OBL spouted off during the 90's. Its funny to read that the biographer thinks OBL is dead as well.

TK, it is flattering to know that you pay such close attention to my advice . I hope your learning something. Maybe if you ask real nice I can teach you how to fish. BTW G.HW.Bush wouldn't have to spy on me, I'd take him along. I liked Pappy Bush. Its his son that I'd like to use as a float for an oversized crabpot.

Fear was this admins campaign slogan. Hard for people to be afraid of a dead guy.

On a side note....does anyone know if GW can see his reflection in a mirror? I've been wondering about that.

Vince,

The Republican media machine is cranking that the last Osama tape sounded just like anti-war Democrats. Could that be intentional?

Sure it is. OBL and the boys want the dems in power who would not. I can think of no easier enemy than the liberals. Just look to Spain to see how easy an enemy they are to fight.

So is it fear when you have locks on your doors, you don't leave valuable fishing gear in your vehicle on the rivers? that you insist on background checks at schools etc. where others supervise your kids. Or is it common sense?

Iuse a lot of common sense to protect my family and home and I have never met anyone that caused me fear. I have seen some rough places.

NO, its fear that makes idiots think it is a good idead to frisk little old ladies at the airport, it is fear that makes some people believe that taking away my nail clippers will keep us safe, it is fear that has given one egomaniac the consent to put hundreds of thousands of soldiers in harms way for what has turned out to be lies.


If you've never meet anyone who has made you feel afraid then something is lacking in you. Its a natural mechanism of self protection. But cowardice and fear are not the same thing.

KT said, "So is it fear when you have locks on your doors, you don't leave valuable fishing gear in your vehicle on the rivers? that you insist on background checks at schools etc. where others supervise your kids. Or is it common sense?

Iuse a lot of common sense to protect my family and home and I have never met anyone that caused me fear. I have seen some rough places."

Sure, it's fear that causes us to lock doors and take other precautions. Fear occurs in degrees. And it is common sense to have a reasonable amount of fear based about what is known about potential threats.

You must live in a rough neigborhood to have a security system at your gate, or did you just make that up to serve one of your posts?

"You must live in a rough neigborhood to have a security system at your gate, or did you just make that up to serve one of your posts?"

I installed video so my wife can see who is coming through the gate. Our driveway is nearly a mile long and you cannot see the road or another house from our home. We had a few things stolen and an attempted break in from a local with bi polar. Pretty safe area really.

vhawk,
I too think he has been dead all along.
If they keep the american people scared,
then they can keep getting what they want,
when they want.

"Well Al-Zawahri is dead, and tissue samples are being sent to Dover for analysis."

It appears that ol Al is alive and kicking. Maybe it's Robert duvall playing him for GW and the boys?


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/30/D8FF60781.html


Hey Vinny any hot tips on the stock market?

hey tk-how does tim eyeman taste??????? better than rory?

Funny they cut the video off before the white American in dark glasses hands Al-Zawahri a big briefcase of cash. These videos really help keep GW's sheep in line. Al-Zawahri seems to be an ally.

You seem a bright guy Vhawk'. Therefore why the contradiction about W. He is a dummy per your comments and yet he is, a Harvard Alumni, A trained by DOD fighter pilot irregardless of alleged duty evasions. An ex govenor of the State of Texas. And after all that he makes Kerry, Gore and the DNC look like special ed. children, but not as loveable.
I hope you are right about Osama. If that means the POTUS has been a part of deluding the American voter, I guess that puts him in good company, FDR and HST come to mind when we talk about misleading the American voter. Nixon too.

Sardonicus, you sure do sanitize Bush’s resume!

Hard to tell if you really believe your line since your posts so rarely have any substantive content.

Bush was a preppy at Andover.

He was admitted to Yale on a legacy despite a poor academic performance at Andover. (A legacy is a silver spoon admission. It means his family was rich and some of them had attended Yale.)

At Yale he was a frat boy, a drunk, and a cheerleader. He took no advantage of the opportunity to get an education, but was graduated anyway,with a gentleman’s C, because of his family connections.

He was denied admission to law school, despite his family connections, because of his dismal performance on the law school admissions exam.

He was admitted to Harvard Business School, which emphasizes family connections. He is not a Harvard alumnus! Big difference between Harvard and Harvard Business School! His teachers at the business school remember him as a dolt. That’s remarkable, since doltish little rich boys aren’t all that unusual at the business school.

He was admitted to a Texas air national guard "champagne unit" for sons of the rich and powerful to escape danger during the Vietnamese War, where he was trained as a pilot, despite ranking low in qualifications for admission, because of…let’s hear it again…his family connections.

His entry into the oil business was also due to family connections and financing. He failed there too.

Karl Rove got Bush elected governor of Texas, exploiting (as always) lies, smears, and Bush’s family connections. And how is that a testimony to any personal capability on Bush’s part?

The sad truth is that Bush has failed at everything he has ever attempted, other than playing pliable puppet to Karl Rove’s ambition to be the power behind the throne of a president.

His failure as president is part of a lifelong pattern of failure. If it were not for his…one more time!…family connections, Bush would be lucky to be managing a 7-11.

Lol. SuckerSnagger you make W sound more like a Kennedy than anything else. I guess he should have gone to Hollywood. He must be very good at reading his lines. And I always thought he was handicapped in the public speaking facet of politics. I stated the obvious facts in my prior post. How do we ascertain your comments are 'facts' rather than just sour grapes? If it is so easy for such a misfit to be elected president, I'm truly surprised that Kerry didn't win. It wasn't for lack of funding, Just ask G Soros and Teresa Heinz.