Bush lied, people died?
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Posted: March 2, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2006 Laurence A. Elder


"Bush lied, people died"?


I recently interviewed Gen. Georges Sada, who served as the second-highest ranked general in the Iraqi Air Force. A two-star general, he wrote a recently published book called "Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein." Here are some sound bites from that interview:

Elder: General, as you know, the president has been accused of lying about the intelligence, fabricating it, cherry-picking it, that he wanted to go to war, he really didn't believe that Saddam had WMD. It was all a big smokescreen. When you hear people accuse the president of lying about WMD, of misleading the country and the world, your reaction, Gen. Georges Sada, is what?

Sada: Let me tell you. I am really surprised how people are speaking like this and their soldiers are still in the battle. You see, a soldier when he is in battle, he wants to feel that all his nation are backing him and they are with him. And now I tell you I feel very sorry when I see some people in this country, their soldiers are in the battle, and they are discussing political things making that soldier to feel that he is there in the wrong place. That's one.

Second, if there was something right had been done in this country, it was the best decision taken in the proper time, to go and liberate Iraq from an evil dictatorship who only God knows what he was going to do in the region, and maybe even to America, because that man was possessing the weapons of mass destruction and then he was with very evil intentions towards all the West, especially America.


Elder: Fifteen months before we invaded Iraq, the president began talking about what our intentions would be if Saddam would not comply with the U.N. resolutions. During those 15 months ... did Saddam have WMD, have stockpiles of WMD, and, if so, what type?

Sada: Iraq possessed WMD and they were there, and they were chemical and biological, and nuclear weapons. He have also deals with China to make it in China this time, not in Iraq, because F-16s of Israelis have destroyed the Iraqi nuclear project, therefore, he designed a new system to have the atom bomb to be done in China, and he would only pay the money, and he did for $100 million, and $5 million were paid for down payment. I know the bank, I know the branch, and I know the accountant who did it.

Elder: What happened to the chemical and biological weapons?

Sada: The chemical and biological weapons were available in Iraq before liberating the country, but Saddam Hussein took the advantage of a natural disaster that happened in Syria when a dam was collapsed and many villages were flooded. So Saddam Hussein took that cover and declared to the world that he is going to use the civilian aircraft for an air bridge to help Syria with blankets, food and fuel oil, and other humanitarian things, but that was not true. The truth is he converted two regular passenger civilian aircraft, 747 Jumbo and 727 ... all the weapons of mass destruction were put there by the special Republican Guards in a very secret way, and they were transported to Syria, to Damascus, by flying 56 flights to Damascus ... In addition ... also a truck convoy on the ground to take whatever has to do with WMD to Syria.

Elder: I've always thought it incredible, bizarre, unbelievable, that our intelligence could have been wrong, British intelligence could have been wrong, the French, the Germans, the Russians, the U.N., the Egyptians, the Jordanians, all of whom thought he had WMD. I never felt comfortable with the idea that everybody got it wrong ...

Sada: Your intelligence said that Saddam Hussein had WMD ... I agree with them. They were there in Iraq. But they didn't find them after liberation of Iraq, because they were searching not in the right place. These things were transported by air and by ground.


Elder: General, why would Saddam, knowing we were about ready to invade, transfer WMD out of the country instead of using it on American and coalition troops?

Sada: Because he knew that the power of America to liberate the country is more than what he can do. And maybe not all WMD were ready to use then. And that's why he transported to Syria and he thought that he's going to maintain in the power as he was maintained in 1991 and then he was going to get it back again and then proceed to complete the whole project of WMD.

"Bush lied, people died"?


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Larry Elder is a popular radio and TV talk-show host from Los Angeles.

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Prove the interview is false Aunty. Prove there were no wmds. Heck prove bush lied and go collect your 5000.00.

Stalemate.

no you prove it. no you prove it. no you prove it.

I feel like I am in kindergarden. lol

2300 dead means the proof should come from Bush, micro.

AM isn't the President, she didn't order troops into Iraq. Why is the burden of proof on her?

And while you're at it, prove there's no Easter Bunny, too.

Polls tell you your right. LMFAO. Thats really funny Aunty.

The media has been spewing anti bush crap for 5 years now and its working. Doesnt mean your right! It means you have a big mouth.

I in no way support or agree with everything Bush has done. I do support him as our President and support the war in Iraq. Since your into numbers Dan s, 2300 fallen hereos says I am right. In five years in Vietnam we lost way over 50 thousand men! The left swingers can keep up the blah blah blah everything is so terrible B.S but what have they done to impact this country in a positive way. The left swingers need some serious mental help.

Whos using scare tactics now hmmmmm? You exagerate Aunty. The Ports are not for sale! The security is not for sale! The standard Port operations is for sale! You know stuff like shipping schedules and labor efficiency stuff.

I never got to see the AM poll? Who conducted that one?

2300 fallen hereos says I am right.

Like to hear you tell me how that works.

Because you say they do?

Nice work on that one. Very TK-ish.

You guys are still cracking me up!
So much hypocracy!

Name calling and only posting clips out of context without the full statement.
Isnt that what Ya'll blame the right wingers for? not to mention the scare tactics and emotional jibber jabber you post too. Funny stuff! This is better then watching that git'r done Larry the cable guy on tv. You guys are not anymore brainiatic then a lobotimized egg plant.

Aunty, I thought Jim was kinda tough on you but I am thinking maybe not now. You really cant post without putting down people with a different opinion can you. I have givin in to the same, and try to refrain but maybe its time I join the discusions liberal style. Might be FUN.

Aint that the truth Micro...

Let's see how bad she slams you for that one..

Let's see how many time's kool aid, neocon, rightwing wacko come up because you don't fall in lock step with 'em...

Why because I didn’t bow down to the princess of bull splatter, and become one of your little cronies. And you can handle me? The hell you can, you can’t even handle a razing with out your BS threats, and you have to be able to see the truth, before your hatred. So how can you handle me? You live in a fantasy world.

see you morons here don’t understand crap. Just because we support our president Don’t mean we always agree with every thing he’s doing. BUT I WILL BE DAMED if I will give the enemy a tool to use against us. If we are to win any thing, we must not be divided. And when the country can’t even draw together, it just builds the confidence of the ones like Alqida. To attack us.

Aunty, All I'll say about that is you come off partly to mostly inflamatory in many of your post. It doesnt take an education reallize your being called an idiot in such phrases as for one.

"Anyone who continues to support the idiocy in the White House is in serious need of psychological care."

It would take to much space on this post and too much time to list them all

A better way to say this may be:

People who continue to believe the incompetance coming from the White House are in serious need of more facts.


People respond to insults in different ways and some people take round about insults more personally then others. I just want to play equal. Well thats not entirely true I like to get ahead. Heh, heh

I still apreciate your involvement in trying to Harper pier open.

I am just going to have fun as ussual.

Sincerely,

Bush's 37% approval rating.

"If we are to win any thing, we must not be divided."

Cross over to the side of truth and democracy then.

You know it's getting bad when country music stars are bashing you:

http://www.kirotv.com/entertainment/7874398/detail.html

[/qb][/QUOTE] The left swingers can keep up the blah blah blah everything is so terrible B.S but what have they done to impact this country in a positive way. [/QB][/QUOTE]

is that a serious question? how about leaving ole george the largest surplus in american history??? in fact without that surplus, the country would be totally bankrupt right now......and the country is officially bankrupt now but the republicans are raising the debt ceiling so we can go further in debt without being "officially" bankrupt......

so if you are pro-iraq invasion, you are depending on the sucesses of the democrats because you wouldnt have any money at all to fight your illegal, imoral war; without the funds that we left for you war mongers to spend...... and no tax lowering would have occoured because there would have not been the funds to support it........

in fact the democrats are the ones who have saved this country's butt and the republicans are hell bent on making sure we go bankrupt to a point that there can be no re-organizing....

"Anyone who continues to support the idiocy in the White House is in serious need of psychological care."

Nope, you were first Aunty.
kinder care, kinder care, whos going to pay for my kinder care.

Anyways, on 1090AM (media) the left is proud to half a big mouth. Nothing personal there Aunty.

Plus, in that context it's 'you're' - a contraction of you and are. As in 'Doesn't mean you are right.'

One of the most entertaining threads on the forum. Pleases me to see that there are others with a sense of patriotism at large, and Aunty moo, "the bull splatter" recipient is just as silly as ever. Her standard repartee to anything that might require a bit of finesse is a string of denigratory phrases. Her personal form of verbal offal. God I love scrabble, LOl. I realize it's non-productive to talk over the head of the target, but what the hell it's good practice using those newly learned words. Ann sez don't waste your time talking to a liberal. Aw hell, it's entertaining at times. Even tho' you gotta' look down hill all the time.

"newly learned words", Sard? Which words were those?

By "Ann", do you mean Ann Coulter? Is Ann Coulter a mentor of yours, Sard?

Sard seems to be playing the role of TK's replacement quite well. Maybe folks oughtta be thanking him for perpetuating the dsyfunctional discourse!

Thank you Salty one. How's the cliche go? Love me or hate me but don't ignore me. lol TK seemed much less forgiving than I feel. I try to excuse the juvenile behaviour and rancor by assuming folks have tons of stress to unload and this is an avenue to do that. What's frustrating is the apparent political ignorance attendant with the insult incorporated clique.

What proof do I have you are female Aunty moo? And now days it doesn't seem to be a criteria for gender respect anyway. Your comments, insults, just put you in the communal puddle of muck. What's new? You do seem to be a cheerleader for a particularly articulate, in a profane manner, group of anti-establishment grumblers.

Republicans and Democrats both have something in common; that is each party has it's wackos. The Republicans just managed to get one of their's elected. I mean really, we had a choice between Bush and Kerry for President.

Did Bush lie? Come on, who knows, it is really just a matter of opinion. If it wasn't, Bush would be gone, as in impeached. I should mention that I am a little tired of retired generals and others with some B.S. story to tell being quoted on both sides of this issue. Lets face it, if these people really had any credibility we wouldn't see them on some right wing or left wing talk show. I will just use the Iraqi General quoted above as an example. If he was really credible, wouldn't the Bush/Republican PR folks have him front and center to gain support?

What do I think about the Iraq War? Well, we haven't had the resolve to really win a war since WWII. We have Korea, Vietnam, and now Iraq. I see a pattern developing here and both Democrats and Republicans have a hand in all of them.

You are to be commended Aunty M. That was a reasonable and probably accurate first sentence. cheerio.

sardonicus- you ought to be a man and let the moo stuff go.... if you can debate -then debate but let the cow stuff go......it only goes to undermine everything you write further.....

whats next? making fun of crippled kids like you buddy TK?
while it is more accepted to be more rankerous in this forum than other forums, it is still just bad form to make every post some sort of cow joke about women.....
you might not understand than many of the folks here are friends and sometimes the slams are between friends..... we know eachother from the fishing board.....you might not realize it but this is actually a fishing forum and that is the commonality that we all have in common except you.

do you fish at all? if so why not let some people know so we can know if you even belong on this board or if you are just here to stir up crap with strangely incorrect articles and history.........

Lupo I only use the bovine comments to respond to the insulting manner of the Lady. (she's not)If she behaved in a lady like manner I would cease and desist. However, it's funny that you suddenly acquired a noble streak. You are about as insulting an anal tic as I have read. You dither from saying something nearly sensible to absolute inanity like the comment about crippled kids.
Do you even have a fishing license? I suspect my credentials are as good as yours. Although I don't have a saltwater flush bowl like you. I do envy your proximity to the Salt.

Sard, most of us don't concider you a gentleman either.

sardonicus,

While this forum is pretty much wide open, your comments directed toward AuntyM and Lupo are out of line. Please be warned that direct attacks, especially ones dealing with your references to Lupo beating his wife and other marital issues will not be tolerated. PERIOD

Like she never attacks people where have you been.and when did you become inportant to tell people what they can say?????????????

I am not going to debate this issue with you.

It is inappropriate to accuse someone of wife beating or to raise questions of someones gender in order to insight a response. If you have a problem with this line of reasoning then I am sorry.

I am not here to tell people what they can say.

I was made a Mod in order to help ensure that things don't get out of hand.

Sard's original post was beyond the line.

Oh boy. Looks like Erkle was made a mod...

I guess you can't fight city hall even when you admire the source of their avatar. However, I felt I was responding in kind to the verbal offal generated by auntym and lupo. Kinda like Animal Farm I guess some are more equal than others. In case you haven't seen the bit before, the line of questioning about beating your wife is a classic take on the prosecutor asking a question that cannot be answered in any sensible way.
Btw Big Daddy, is the comment about how big a gun you pack significant? I'm sorry you feel the need to defend the two Orcs I perhaps gouged too deeply. You may banish me if you like. Make my Day.

Wheres the big gun statement? I must have missed it. I really wish Tk would come back. He was clearly a celebraty, there isnt a thread in this forum where he isnt mentioned LOL. Ok maybe a few but only a few. Hey dammit! Dirty harrys supposed to be Dirty!

TK was hyper-agressive and treated other board members badly. He did, between spewing hate and discord, energetically present substantive far-right arguments. (Of course hate and discord are very much a part of the far-right meme.)

Current posts from the far right compare poorly with TK's in substantive content.

You know ol' Elvis is still reading these posts, and just shyts himself daily because he can't spew his venomous insanity at anyone here anymore. No one was more clueless, well except Krusty, maybe. But Elvis had the most convoluted sense of reason and logic; it was as obscure as the "experts" he'd C&P.

I don't believe his online persona was genuine, anyway. I think he made it all up for what ever reason. Too many things didn't add up, and too many other things fit too neatly together.

Bottome line is that he wasn't who he claimed to be and that makes him one big Loser in my book, whatever that's worth.