Sounds like Mr.Zinn "gets it". He has articulated our "holier than thou", "rah-rah" football game mentality("let's kick some *ss")very clearly. And don't call me a liberal, I'm trying to raise 2 kids in Seattle and can't even spank 'em without fear of going to jail! And heaven forbid, someone sees me smoking near them.
Moe

FJ, I feel that most of what was posted is pretty close to the truth as I see it. I would agree that there is more that can be added to the list, but our moral superiorty is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

FYI, I have never been a follower of Charles Linberg, nor is he considered one of my heroes. Sorry that your take of my above comments, leads you to believe that they are without reason, and are out of touch with universal truths of moral men.

My thoughts are independant of any organized movement. Before the first bomb was dropped on Irag, I spoke out here about how wrong it would be, to pre-emptively strike a country that had nothing to do with 9-11. It was my moral obligation and indignation to do so. I'm one of the "I told you so" as history is illustrating.

A lot of the debate advocating for the war at that time, (as well as now) was based on a foundation of racisism and bigotted hatred. Sorta like what must have happened, back in the days of ethnic cleasing of the American Indian, or the war to own slaves here in America. How many more thousands of (muslims, Red skins, Yellow skins, whites or blacks, christian, Jews,etc.) innocent people need to die in order to demonstrate the high moral values that some feel this administration represents? It's a problem that's not unique, as Nazi germany exemplified what happens when an evil and corrupt cabal gains total power and control of a government and it's people. This is being done right now, right here in America today, with the constant programing of people into farm animals or sheep with constant threats and fear, while KVI, and Fox News do the shepherding.

It's not pretty to watch the eager chugging of the Kool Aid by the Rory's out there. Not to mention, the frequent dribbling (from the corners of their mouth), of the artificial and synthetic juices in neon, for all to see here. Their toxic Kool Aid stains, don't seem to be messing this board as it once did. I'm guessing that they have bibs in place these days. I'm sure that their addiction to the stuff is still strong, and there is obviously still an abundant supply of the toxic tangy drink being served up in mass quantities on a regular basis. Just not seeing as many stains on this board these days. Just glad the high chair (TK) went away, and bibs do help keep it from getting to messy in this tucked away place.

Again, I will ask the original question: Are we morally superior and qualified as a nation (based on U S history and the current administration)to determind the morals and values of an entire world, with our criminal regime and it's outlaws, acting as our moral ambassadors, it's example?????

I say we need to clean our own house first, and kick these bums out of office ASAP.

SS, have you notice how no one will touch or comment on this. It's the elephant that no one can see, taking the dump at the dinner table in the salad bowl. The information and numbers in that article is staggering, but only the tip of the Ice berg of deception. Truly amazing!