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#174522 - 05/10/06 08:20 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dan S. Offline
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Posts: 4949
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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Last month the White House removed information from government Web sites about sexual orientation discrimination in the workplace. That's because federal employees can now be fired for being homosexual. On Feb. 23 Washington Post columnist Steven Barr reported that references to sexual orientation discrimination were removed from Federal employment complaint forms posted on agency Web sites. At the time, President Bush's new appointee to head the Office of Special Counsel, Scott Bloch, said the policy was under review.

Last week, Bloch issued his brief on the matter. According to Bloch, federal employees will now "have no recourse if they are fired or demoted simply for being gay."

In 1980, the federal government ruled that discrimination based on sexual orientation is prohibited under the 1978 Civil Service Reform Act, which covers all conduct that does not "adversely affect" work performance. Bloch, however, believes that conduct based on sexual orientation is not the same as sexual orientation itself. In his twisted reading of the 1978 act -- an act intended to protect employees and job applicants from prejudice in the workplace unrelated to their job performance -- Bloch draws a distinction between an individual's conduct as a gay or lesbian, and his or her status as a gay or lesbian. As he told the Federal Times last week, "People confuse conduct and sexual orientation as the same thing, and I don't think they are." So while you can't be fired for bringing your same-sex partner to the office picnic, you can be fired for being gay.
Better bring your Power Pro for that red herring, Rory.
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#174523 - 05/10/06 08:30 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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So at no point in your little game is anyone going to come up with an answer for even one of my questions ?

In case anyone missed some of my personal info which I have so generously shared previously......I am happily married to my first and only wife, she is the mother of my only two children, and I provide our very modest income by cutting timber.

Calling me a bigot repeatedly is silly, and a very weak position to take in an arguement where even a single logical point could close the deal.


I have not proposed taking any rights away from anyone

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#174524 - 05/10/06 08:37 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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You're dumber than a bucket of hair.
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#174525 - 05/10/06 08:47 PM Re: GOP Heroes
fishpolelease Offline
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That's the only answer you need to know and it applies to every other question you ever ask.
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#174526 - 05/10/06 08:52 PM Re: GOP Heroes
sardonicus Offline
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Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 961
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Oregonian, surely by now you realize that when the issue hits a dead end. Or the local intelligentsia runs out of scintillating comments the game turns into name calling and insults. I hope you are not taking time away from your fine wife and family to spar with the local pulp lumber.

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#174527 - 05/10/06 08:53 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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I guess as long as this gay marriage business is just so many peoples wet dream, no harm done.

It is comforting to know there are still a few things that haven't been compromized in this day and age.......

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#174528 - 05/10/06 08:58 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Loc: port ludlow
See, still dumb, you hopeless.
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#174529 - 05/10/06 08:59 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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During a lull in the action here I took my kids out for a quick boat ride, the daughter helped a baby goose out from a hole in some rocks, she was quite excited and proud of that.

We chased an osprey up the lake trying to decide what kind of fish it was eating, the consensus is largemouth bass.

It was great, there was one MAN fishing from the dock, no WOMEN, BLACKS, or GAYS to be seen !


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#174530 - 05/10/06 09:01 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Bull Sh**, you're too stupid to run a boat.
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#174531 - 05/10/06 09:03 PM Re: GOP Heroes
Dan S. Offline
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Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Glad none of them other were there to wreck it for you. ;\)
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#174532 - 05/10/06 09:04 PM Re: GOP Heroes
fishpolelease Offline
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"local intelligentsia runs out of scintillating comments the game turns into name calling and insults"

I'm not name calling I'm just saying he's a bigot and really really stupid as well. That's isn't name calling it's just saying that he is something that he doesn't agree with.
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#174533 - 05/10/06 09:04 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Posts: 990
Running the boat takes a lot more out of me than explaining simple facts and asking even simpler questions here.......so I guess you are improving, good work !

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#174534 - 05/10/06 09:05 PM Re: GOP Heroes
fishpolelease Offline
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Loc: port ludlow
I understand why Oregonians fight so hard for the right to die, if I was that f******* stupid I'd wish I could die too.
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#174535 - 05/10/06 09:14 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Registered: 03/17/05
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LOL, come on down we'll treat you right.

Remember that time we let the gay marriage thing fly for a little while, generated a bunch of revenue from all the traveling love birds, then decided it didn't count !

LOL !
We know how to have fun down here......

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#174536 - 05/10/06 09:18 PM Re: GOP Heroes
fishpolelease Offline
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Loc: port ludlow
I lived in Salem for years, I have family all over the state, have been inhabiting the area for eons. I don't think you would treat me "right", just a wild guess.
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#174537 - 05/10/06 09:28 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Can't blame you for being skepticle, but it's true, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, even if they vote and think differently than me.

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#174538 - 05/10/06 10:14 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Posts: 349
Loc: bellingham
O.,
I wouldn't let you near my child. Just being truthful.
Perception is reality. Think of the perception of you from what you've written.
Tough night for the sox,
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#174539 - 05/11/06 03:57 AM Re: GOP Heroes
AuntyM Offline
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Registered: 03/06/01
Posts: 10120
Loc: Harstine Island
Heh heh, the Sard we've come to know and love. ;\)

I can't participate in the bashing today. I'm going fishing. Neaners.

Yesterday's shrimping on the canal was incredible! Sunny, warm, lots fewer people, and good pulls!
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#174540 - 05/11/06 01:44 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 1557
Loc: Third stone from the sun
It looks like all the democrat voters that want to see homosexual marriage legalized and formally recognized by the government are going to have to leave the D's and start their own party.
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Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:40 a.m. EDT

Dean: We Oppose Gay Marriage Too


Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean
has angered supporters in the gay and lesbian community by stating that his party opposes gay marriage.

Appearing on the Christian Broadcasting Network’s program "The 700 Club” on Wednesday, Dean declared: "The Democratic Party platform from 2004 says that marriage is between a man and a woman. That's what it says. I think where we may take exception with some religious leaders is that we believe in inclusion, that everybody deserves to live with dignity and respect, and that equal rights under the law are important.”


Dean, however, "misrepresented” the party platform, according to the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, which has returned a $5,000 contribution from the Democratic Party in a protest over Dean’s remarks.


According to the blog PageOneQ, the Democratic Party’s actual platform reads: "We support full inclusion of gay and lesbian families in the life of our nation and seek equal responsibilities, benefits and protection for these families. In our country, marriage has been defined at the state level for 200 years, and we believe it should continue to be defined there. We repudiate President Bush’s divisive effort to politicize the Constitution by pursuing a ‘Federal Marriage Amendment.’”

The Task Force’s executive director Matt Foreman said in a statement: "Governor Dean is wrong about what the Democratic platform says about marriage equality. Disturbingly, this is not the first time he has misrepresented this important and affirming plank, and he has been asked before to correct the record and to cease making these misleading statements.”

In an effort to drum up support in the Christian community before the 2006 midterm elections, Dean also stated on the show: "One of the misconceptions about the Democratic Party is that we're godless and that we don't have any values.

"The truth is, we have an enormous amount in common with the Christian community, and particularly with the evangelical Christian community.

"One of the biggest things that Democrats worry about is the materialism of our country, what's on television that our kids are seeing, and the lack of spirituality. And that's something we have in common."

Dean even tried to downplay the Democratic Party’s traditional strong pro-choice stance, saying: "I think what we have in common with the evangelical community is that we ought to have a lot fewer abortions than we do. The abortions have actually gone up in the last few years. We should have far fewer abortions ... we ought to make sure that there's not just abstinence, but family planning used to get rid of abortion, and that is something that we share.”

Asked if it is important for Democrats to tap into the evangelical community to win in 2006, he responded: "I think it's important, and I think it's a good idea for the Democratic Party.” But if Dean’s comments were designed to garner support from evangelicals, they no doubt alienated many in the gay and lesbian community.

In his statement, Foreman said: "Governor Dean’s record on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues since becoming DNC chair has been sorely and sadly lacking.

"In light of Governor Dean’s pandering and insulting interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network, we have decided to return the DNC’s recent $5,000 contribution to us.”
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#174541 - 05/11/06 05:35 PM Re: GOP Heroes
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Posts: 349
Loc: bellingham
Rory,
You should know, the Dem.'s biggest strength and weakness is that they are more of a group of individuals than a team that thinks with one mind.
The government should not be in the buisiness of deciding who you can marry.
1st and 3rd 2 out,
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